How'd it go today?

Got a call first thing this morning that they were having some problems with dimensions I gave them on a small bridge, and they're pouring concrete at 11am. I'm thinking "Shit! What did I fuckup on this one?!". These small county jobs are deceptive. There isn't much to them, and they look like they should be easy. Problem is the plans are almost always garbage, and you're half making it up as you go. There wasn't enough information on the structures to check in my comps, so you just do what you can, try to be careful, and hope for the best.

I get in the office, and start going over my comps, and... everything looks ok? We go out to the job on the other side of the county so I can talk to them in person, and see directly what the problem is. Turns out they thought the beamseat offsets were aligned with the bridge skew, but I laid them out 90° to the abutments. That's the way I always do it, but in this case, it's only a 20' span, and they pulled strings to setup the seats, which won't work. On big bridges, you can't pull strings, so it's obvious that the offsets are 90° to the structure. This could've been done either way, and I guess I should've specified exactly what I gave them, but I've been doing it the same way for the same people for over 30 years, so I didn't give it any thought. Oh well. I like problems that I didn't cause, and don't take a gun to fix.

Next job we went to, I saved the day. Boss pulls out the metal detector to find some property corners, and the batteries are dead. We had a good idea about where they were, but didn't know where the pins were. I pulled out my phone, used it as a metal detector, and found the 2 pins so we could get started on the job. I was little surprised myself that it worked so well. Like a higher tech version of the old dip needles that were in use slightly before my time. I've played with those in the truck(almost 40 years ago), but never used one to find a property corner.
 
The magnetometer inside is affected by ferrous metal. I use this program, which I've mentioned here before due to the clinometer, which could be useful getting tree heights for falling...


This makes it easier cause you can set the phone to vibrate when you hit metal. Otherwise, there's other programs that show when the waveform gets disrupted, or you could just use the compass, and see when the needle does something weird. That's what the old dip needles were. It was a compass in a box, and it used a prism to flip the image 90° and you view it from the top. You move the box back and forth north/south, and when the needle spins(it appears to dip when viewed on top through the prism), you're over ferrous metal.

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Looks like I may be mistaken about the prism flipping the image on a dip needle. I just looked it and found this article...


It looks like they're used vertically. In my defense, I was going on a very old memory, and it was never a tool I used. I can't find a good picture of what the box looked like.
 
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The magnetometer inside is affected by ferrous metal. I use this program, which I've mentioned here before due to the clinometer, which could be useful getting tree heights for falling...


This makes it easier cause you can set the phone to vibrate when you hit metal. Otherwise, there's other programs that show when the waveform gets disrupted, or you could just use the compass, and see when the needle does something weird. That's what the old dip needles were. It was a compass in a box, and it used a prism to flip the image 90° and you view it from the top. You move the box back and forth north/south, and when the needle spins(it appears to dip when viewed on top through the prism), you're over ferrous metal.

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Looks like I may be mistaken about the prism flipping the image on a dip needle. I just looked it and found this article...


It looks like they're used vertically. In my defense, I was going on a very old memory, and it was never a tool I used. I can't find a good picture of what the box looked like.
Thanks for posting that John. It looks like it will come in handy for me to locate a water shutoff valve stem that my neighbor buried.
 
@lxskllr Awesome! How well would it work for nails in wood?!
Not that well I don't think. I don't think a compass is sensitive enough to detect a nail at any useful depth. You'd have an easier time visually IDing a nail intrusion. I was looking for rebar a few inches underground.
 
Thanks for posting that John. It looks like it will come in handy for me to locate a water shutoff valve stem that my neighbor buried.

When you think you found it try the pressure washer and shop vac, easiest way to daylight it. You can make small diameter deep holes so it doesn't take a lot to dig, and you do a very narrow trench. But then again after admiring all of your pictures of equipment you probably got a guy with a vac truck! Seriously tho it works very well, the higher psi the better but even a small electric one works. Dig perpendicular to the pipe and you'll find it, and then can dig it easier with a machine because then you know where it's safe to dig. Once you find it toss something in the hole to mark it, once you start with a hoe it'll likely cave in your spot hole.
 
When you think you found it try the pressure washer and shop vac, easiest way to daylight it. You can make small diameter deep holes so it doesn't take a lot to dig, and you do a very narrow trench. But then again after admiring all of your pictures of equipment you probably got a guy with a vac truck! Seriously tho it works very well, the higher psi the better but even a small electric one works. Dig perpendicular to the pipe and you'll find it, and then can dig it easier with a machine because then you know where it's safe to dig. Once you find it toss something in the hole to mark it, once you start with a hoe it'll likely cave in your spot hole.
It got buried when my neighbor had a contractor add some shot rock for a pad to park his boat trailer...good grief. It's in a ROW for the access to my back lot. Fortunately, I don't think it's too deep and I know the general area to look. Just need to do it.
 
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