treebilly
Student of the Jedi. OH-7106A
Puts the weight directly over the axle instead of off the rear end allowing for a higher towing capacity. Also better backing abilities.
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Burnham
Woods walker
On the downside, it's moderately easy to run a wheel of the gooseneck trailer into a low spot while the trailer is somewhat jackknifed and crush the sidewall of your pickup bed. Flatbed tow rigs are pretty much immune to this, obviously.
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CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Takes quite a turn to mess with my flat beds. Terrain as well.
the gooseneck hitch sits between the axles so it loads the truck evenly, instead of adding an extreme amount of weight to the back end and trying to lift the front end up, plus you can turn much tighter before crunching the truck, and they are much more stable/less sway prone, which has never been much issue with my bumper pull besides hauling full size skidsteers
heres my buddies father in law's trailer, which is identical to the one I'm getting although his is a 14 foot and mine is going to be a 16 foot, everything else is the same minus cosmetics, dare I say it, I'm excited! hate to see my homesteader go, been a fantastic trailer but its time to upgrade!
heres the exact reason for the swap
this skidsteer would make the trailer sway uncontrollably if I turned it around, and loaded like it is in the picture, the grapple is touching the back doors of the trailer, the truck squat isn't as bad normally but the rear axle was lower than the front and trailer axles due to the drainage slope of this parking area, it leveled out a few inches once we got on the road but it still didn't inspire confidence
this skidsteer would make the trailer sway uncontrollably if I turned it around, and loaded like it is in the picture, the grapple is touching the back doors of the trailer, the truck squat isn't as bad normally but the rear axle was lower than the front and trailer axles due to the drainage slope of this parking area, it leveled out a few inches once we got on the road but it still didn't inspire confidence
no can do, it makes the trailer sway over 20mph, should be perfectly fine in the "new" trailer tho
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TreeHouser
Drive forward and lower the bucket on top of the front wall. Keeping more of the weight over the axels, still tongue heavy but more manageable. But your new trailer is a better solution that two feet is going to help.
SeanKroll
Treehouser
You can store some things in the bed with the gooseneck or a '5th wheel' towing setup.
With a bumper pull, you are limited to about 10,000 lbs trailer and 1,000 lbs tongue weight. Goose is roughly double.
honestly, as long as everything is lower than the bed sides, you don't lose much, you can stack things around the hitch and lose maybe a 2 foot circle right in the center of the bed, I only haul climbing gear in the bed when I'm towing so it's not a huge deal, and most goose neck hitch balls can flip over so they sit below or even with the bed allowing you to still load full size sheet goods or pallets, they are super nifty in the right application, plus it cuts the amount of people asking to borrow your trailer to about 1/2% because anyone with a gooseneck hitch in their truck probably already has their own trailer
Dave Shepard
Square peg, round world.
Easy day, so far. Temps and humidity have improved. Just saw MassDOT trying to figure out how to load a dead bear into a slide in dump bed. I didn't see evidence of a crunched car, but somebody definitely had some damage.
I saw pictures on facebook of a line clearance crew trying to run a deer through a chipper a few months back, not sure what led up to that but I'd love to hear how that came about if anyone knows!
Dave Shepard
Square peg, round world.
I hope it was thoroughly frozen!
it wasn't, I feel bad for whoever has to spend the next 6 hours un clogging that chipper
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TreeHouser
That load could have been balanced better,
bah, it's fine! haha. I was loading off a big tree with a winch. That trailer has to be tongue heavy (or it will wag, unlike a goose), I got it too forward and wasn't going to fight it any more.
The truck sag is exaggerated by having lift springs in the front and not the rear yet.
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TreeHouser
Every trailer needs to be tongue heavy or it will sway at speed. Just not excessive tongue weight.
Depends on trailer axle placement. I have a Carson with the axles further back that always pulls fine. This one I had a d500 on behind my dodge and it wagged bad, 35mph max. F700 on it behind my deuce, same.
I think that was 11k of logs, and 2 on the tongue. The pintle hitch exacerbates it. I put a 2-5/16” ball coupler on to try but haven’t yet.
I think that was 11k of logs, and 2 on the tongue. The pintle hitch exacerbates it. I put a 2-5/16” ball coupler on to try but haven’t yet.
Dave Shepard
Square peg, round world.
Usually a 20 ton trailer will have air brakes. It's a function of allowable gcvwr or gross combined vehicle weight rating. 3500, 4500, and 5500 class trucks can haul some big trailers these days, but don't have air brakes. gcvwr of 40k, or more, are becoming common.
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