How'd it go today?

If it's a cut 'n run will all the brush/wood fit in the landing zone? Looks tight to fit that whole tree down in there as a leave debris. Also it appeared that if you're gonna chunk down the main stem without rigging it one bad bounce could make it a costing job instead of a profiting job.

Price sounds cheap to me unless you're working alone with no coverages.
 
He said theres room towards the house. He has intentions of burning it or saving it since "its pretty rare".

As far as bombing it, I wouldnt take the risk, I dont have a lot of overhead on my side jobs. The guy I work with climbs too so we take turns climbing and roping and split everything. If I can get 3-400 out of the day each we are more than willing to take our time roping the trunk in sections. If theres enough room I like to use a vertical speedline or an impact line to land the wood right at the base.
 
If it's a leave job, I'd say start stacking a line of brush against the pool to help avoid bouncing/rolling of chunks into the pool. Another barrier of brush to the sides to protect the fence. Maybe a couple of bushy limbs in the main drop zone to cushion the higher drops. Then start out with 3' - 4' pieces from the top. That's if he okayed a few divots in the yard. If not, lotsa roping/blocking there...
 
bonner1040 said:
What would you charge Squish?
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Lol, you'll get the same reply I'd give the customer. I'd have to see it in person to put a price on it. For me if it's a leave the brush job but you have to move most of it around anyways that would negate alot of the savings to the customer.

From the vid I couldn't really tell but how much of the canopy or tree is hanging over the neighbors side and what is the neighbors view on the tree coming down? Are a couple of things I'd want to know. Also I'd want to see how much room there was for fitting that brush in there?

Like Treesmith I'd be inclined to build a 'barrier' and bomb the wood.

If it's a side thing and you guys put the cash in your pocket than not bad. If you had to pay compo, deductions, taxes, insurance yada yada yada. I know 8 bills in a day would be selling yourself short up here for two guys.
 
I would get the OK for lawn divots. That is pretty standard for me when I do side work. I take a pitch fork and work em out when I am done, if I can get to them.

I go with pretty open disclosure... I try and set up their expectations for whatever I think I can easily provide, I get enough hassles and headaches catering to people during the week. Ive found that if you tell them there will be big divots and such and then you leave the lawn only slightly bumpy they are pleasantly surprised instead upset.

If they seem uneasy about anything, divots, amount of brush, getting rid of the wood, etc; I dont take the job. Ultimately I want them to be happy when I leave.

So far though I have worked for lots of cool people and helped em out with a fair value, all the while never taking a piece of wood away. I have bashed some things up (damn golfcart), but I always fixed it or did some free work to make it right.
 
I can't tell enough from the video, but I'd say anywhere from 350 to 600 if it's a leave job, all dependent on how much rigging is involved, whether or not divots are an issue, how much the brush had to be handled/moved around. Clean up would require a thorough on-site walk-through in determining the best method of getting it out. (And whether or not Cousin Carl's Aunt Gehl could get in there...):lol:
 
bonner1040 said:
So far though I have worked for lots of cool people and helped em out with a fair value, all the while never taking a piece of wood away. I have bashed some things up (damn golfcart), but I always fixed it or did some free work to make it right.
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I'm not trying to pick your ass here man but if you're working un-insured compo or liability than it's not so much a fair value unless you disclose that to the customer. Up here if you don't have WCB(compo) and you get hurt on a customers property they are liable for your injuries. Also it's cool that you've fixed/made right any damage that has been done but if it actually hits the fan and say someone(either yourself or a wayward civilian) gets seriously hurt or something expensive gets wrecked could you actually cover it all?
 
You make good points. I do disclose my situation to the customers. I dont ask for a waiver or anything but I tell them my work experience and my position during my day job, I tell them I am trying to get them a value, and that I have my own major medical which is true.

I have looked at getting gen-liability ins, even have an agent set up and got a really good quote. it was only $500 yearly for $500,000 liabilty and around $4000 to cover my gears and tools. Seemd like a legit company, local and by my house.
http://www.strassman.net/ourMission.html
My plan was to start the policy in May, so next year during the slowest time of year I dont get hit with a big bill.

To answer your question...No I couldnt cover catastrophic damage to a house or a death out of pocket.
 
$500 for $500,000 is definitely a good deal, IMO.

Justin, your question reminds me of a story I heard a while back about a logger/pulpwooder...he was cutting some trees in a yard, charging a small fee for the cutting down, and then hauling/selling the timber. He laid one right across the house, then had the nerve to try to collect his fee....
 
That is a good seeming price.

And heh if you're upfront with them it's their choice.

I have my back-up a bit about it because I have competitors that advertise locally as insured and I'm not sure what they mean. Like their pick-up is insured or something?

You know your costs as long as you bang it out in one trip, get that cash! It does look relatively straightforward for someone who can climb/rig.
 
I just talked to the customer. I told him $800, he said that sounded real fair, and that he would talk to his wife.He didnt try to haggle with me at all. We will see if he follows through.
 
Yup, the space is a bit too small to just limb it out and chunk it down. I agree with all the other assessments here about either roping or speedlining the brush down due to the lack of room, but that means an awful lot of work for the ground guy keeping it arranged so you have room to keep working. Another 10' of landing zone and you could just bomb everything.
 
What's that tree worth here.....? Well, I only saw very little of the situation in the video. If I use my imagination on the rest I would say I'd whack it and remove everything for $1100, provided I could park within 100 feet of the tree. To put it on the ground only, I wouldn't touch it for less than 650. However I'm going on what I picture the entire tree as in my mind. I'm thinking 2 or 3 hours on the hooks provided one guy was clearing the lz and one guy was moving quickly on the ropes.

In my neck of the woods, you coukd find a hungry climber to put that on the ground for 300, and an established tree service to handle the whole job for 700.
 
brendonv said:
I love the internet bidding!
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No no. I was guesstimating. I wasn't suggesting what to charge. I was comparing what things are worth in different regions based on an extremely loose idea of what the job entails which I see nothing wrong with. Tree work is not worth huge money in my region as the area is technically considered financially depressed. I always wonder what the same tree goes for in different places in the country.

But thanks for being a prick! :D
 
Carls hydraulic tree shear on the 550 would have it cut and loaded in the gooseneck in 2.5 minutes.
Scott you have to keep up man. Btw aunt gehl will be for sale when he gets that rig operational!!
 
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