MasterBlaster
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I watched about 90 sec of that video. 
X-Rigging Slings
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bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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But you watch ALL of my mine right 
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MasterBlaster
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lumberjack
Young man on the go
Look under audience retention. 50% is pretty good, depending on the length of the video. The longer it is the more likely they are to stop watching. Still that doesn't bother me all that much, I understand and am the same way.
My AL540 busting trails video is quite engaging in Mexico! 21 views that watched 96% on average!
pantheraba
More biners!!!
hAHAHHA...that's because they can't get "Batman Forever" down there. 
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Hahaa.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
I only made it through the video because it was posted here, so I thought it would be worth watching.
Otherwise I would not have made it through the soundless beginning.
Since we've all become members of the zapper culture, you need to catch and hold people's attention fast.
Otherwise I would not have made it through the soundless beginning.
Since we've all become members of the zapper culture, you need to catch and hold people's attention fast.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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Which video?
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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The X-rigging one, wasn't that what we were talking about?
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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Yeah but then Carl and I got to talking about viewer retention and both mentioned examples, just clarifying...
Thanks.
Back to the original topic.
I dont see the value in fishing pole rigging the spar like that myself. Maybe I dont understand the concepts or something but it seems like any advantage could be had with a single redirect placed high on the stem right before the line goes 'out' from vertical?
It seems like a lot of people like to think of themselves as this 'elite team' that only works on super dead, impossible to rig trees. For the most part I remove regular trees, lots of different scenarios for sure but I rarely encounter issues where I truly FEAR tree failure do to normal rigging. We have a GRCS and all that, but we dont use it that often and as others have said there isnt much that cant be done with a lightweight PINTO setup or a normal scale tailboard block. In truth it is rarely the cutting or getting to the ground part that needs productivity optimization, its the getting it in the truck part that could go faster.
Maybe, everytime I want a new rigging or climbing toy I should save the money in a Gehl AL540 + trailer fund! It might take a while but seems $$ better spent.
Thanks.
Back to the original topic.
I dont see the value in fishing pole rigging the spar like that myself. Maybe I dont understand the concepts or something but it seems like any advantage could be had with a single redirect placed high on the stem right before the line goes 'out' from vertical?
It seems like a lot of people like to think of themselves as this 'elite team' that only works on super dead, impossible to rig trees. For the most part I remove regular trees, lots of different scenarios for sure but I rarely encounter issues where I truly FEAR tree failure do to normal rigging. We have a GRCS and all that, but we dont use it that often and as others have said there isnt much that cant be done with a lightweight PINTO setup or a normal scale tailboard block. In truth it is rarely the cutting or getting to the ground part that needs productivity optimization, its the getting it in the truck part that could go faster.
Maybe, everytime I want a new rigging or climbing toy I should save the money in a Gehl AL540 + trailer fund! It might take a while but seems $$ better spent.
flushcut
TreeHouser
I think I will stick to my CMI blocks with loopies and a block on a tag.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
That's good retention I would say. I don't put a huge amount of concern in it, although it is something I glance at.
After I figured that out I started making lots more money every day. I used to spend several thousand dollars a year on "stuff" that would rarely be used. After I got over the "stuff" phase of tree work, tree work became lucrative for the time invested in it.
(Extreme) Case in point. I basically have one chainsaw in the entirety of my company. A 660, 8 pin sprocket, 20" bar. It still has the same bar and sprocket it came with, as well as the same air filter. I flip the bar usually when I swap chains (I don't sharpen, although Scott does), but I can't remember the last time I looked at the air filter. I think I bought it in early 2011 or 2010. The 660 before it I bought in 2006, it ran fine when I replaced it due to age and damage it received on the tree in my avatar.
Suffice to say it's done well over $200k in tree work and never let me down, nor the one before it.
After I figured that out I started making lots more money every day. I used to spend several thousand dollars a year on "stuff" that would rarely be used. After I got over the "stuff" phase of tree work, tree work became lucrative for the time invested in it.
(Extreme) Case in point. I basically have one chainsaw in the entirety of my company. A 660, 8 pin sprocket, 20" bar. It still has the same bar and sprocket it came with, as well as the same air filter. I flip the bar usually when I swap chains (I don't sharpen, although Scott does), but I can't remember the last time I looked at the air filter. I think I bought it in early 2011 or 2010. The 660 before it I bought in 2006, it ran fine when I replaced it due to age and damage it received on the tree in my avatar.
Suffice to say it's done well over $200k in tree work and never let me down, nor the one before it.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
The ring is around 1.25" wide. That makes for a bend radius at most of .625". Following the general 4/1 general guideline, the ring is suitable for 1/8" rope!
Granted we've grown away from the 4/1 bend/rope diameter ratio in many areas.
I don't have anything against them, but just like most anything else, they're not going to revolutionize anything IMO.
Granted we've grown away from the 4/1 bend/rope diameter ratio in many areas.
I don't have anything against them, but just like most anything else, they're not going to revolutionize anything IMO.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
Here is my retention levels. The percentages average 63.1%. Not surprising that my lowest level of retention is my longest video at 11:21 minutes long. The high dump bucket video is hardly exciting as well.
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bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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I will use a porta wrap every now and then....
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
Rigging off a carabiner is fine if you know its limits. Its actually a super fast, compact way of setting up a lowering point for small loads. Been doing it for years and the guys that taught me the method have been doing it for a long long time. I wouldn't drop any shock loads against it or heavy wood. But for light limbs, you cant beat a steel biner and a small sling.
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
I couldn't agree more. I admire certain new innovations. I even try them out. But I don't overcomplicate the jobs with barrels full of toys. We don't take 10 saws to a job. Each guy has their preffered weapon. We bring those and if the job requires, a big saw or two. I used to stress over when and how Id buy more rigging this that and the other. Im over that. Solid, proven ropes. Lowering blocks and slings, or spliced tails, and a porta wrap. gets every single tree Ive ever touched done in a jiffy without any problems or hold ups. I think many men drown themselves in toys that they think will make them a better climber. Usually those guys suck.
Guys who want to make their own slings could look into these.
Dave
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50045&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50053
Dave
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50045&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50053
flushcut
TreeHouser
Ain't that sumthin!
rumination
Migratory Hippie Arbolist
That's a good find there Dave. I forgot about those being used on sailboats. A bit smaller than the x-rings, but still quite strong. And not too pricey, either.
rumination
Migratory Hippie Arbolist
Scratch that, they come in bigger sizes. 6400kg SWL!
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50053#.UQZ53l5agyY
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50053#.UQZ53l5agyY
