pete mctree
Treehouser
Thought this was interesting. Looks like hard work n the hands though
West coast three tuck logger's eye splice
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Tommy_B
Clutching at saws...
Thats very cool. I'd love to have a play with something like that. Reckon it would be great fun.
I've only every spliced rope which obviously sits flatter. It looks a bit strange when he shows it at the end, like its sitting too far apart. I'm sure its plenty strong enough though. I'm sure the video @gf beranek made didn't look like that but maybe it was a different splice. Hopefully he can comment.
I've only every spliced rope which obviously sits flatter. It looks a bit strange when he shows it at the end, like its sitting too far apart. I'm sure its plenty strong enough though. I'm sure the video @gf beranek made didn't look like that but maybe it was a different splice. Hopefully he can comment.
flushcut
TreeHouser
Impressive!
gf beranek
Old Schooler
This fine fellow told me he did 18 logger's splices in 1 day. Then took a breath and said, "The next day I couldn't do 1." The logger's splice starts at 2:58.
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gf beranek
Old Schooler
It's brutal.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Like a porcupine. Worse even.
The loggers eye is used for winch lines on Cats and skidders. The eye is pulled through the fairlead of those big winches thousands of times. And from the first few cycles the pressure of running over those rollers separates all the strands and splays them out over the splice. Kind of like chaffing gear. The ends of some strands are flattened out like razors and the others sharp as needles.
They're called JAGGERS', and they'll bite you bad until you learn to avoid them.
The loggers eye is used for winch lines on Cats and skidders. The eye is pulled through the fairlead of those big winches thousands of times. And from the first few cycles the pressure of running over those rollers separates all the strands and splays them out over the splice. Kind of like chaffing gear. The ends of some strands are flattened out like razors and the others sharp as needles.
They're called JAGGERS', and they'll bite you bad until you learn to avoid them.
Burnham
Woods walker
It is. Misery to work with.
ruel
TreeHouser
Im bet those cables are crazy durable, but No thank you! Is the tucked splice way stronger, why not do the wrap and swaged splice?
Burnham
Woods walker
Not way stronger, but doable in the field without a press to set the swag. It often is a hella long way to the rigging shop from a logging site hereabouts 
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Especially now that rigging shops, like real saw shops (usually the same establishments, back in my day) are rarer than hen's teeth.
.Especially now that rigging shops, like real saw shops (usually the same establishments, back in my day) are rarer than hen's teeth.
A swage press isn't in the woods or jobsite, and it makes a hard spot that is prone to wire fatigue when they are abused, and can snag on stuff. Being able to just splice up new things is super handy and cheaper too if done when needed. The swage is actually stronger (100 percent strength), and is the only thing to use where the load can twist (undoes the splice), but flexibility is a thing too. Certain types of hand splices (the liverpool i think is one) are actually 100 percent strength too, but can come undone with load twisting. They still have their place, even in industrial rigging, but it's usually for specialty stuff in that world. Ironworkers for example will still use hand spliced ones for choking beams, because the swage will often make it slip or bend poorly.
Burnham
Woods walker
Agreed on all points.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
I concur.
Burnham
Woods walker
If Beranek and Burnham both say it is so...then it is unquestionably so.
Dare ya to argue the point...
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Dare ya to argue the point...
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sotc
Dormant hero!!
We did all the splicing on the job. In the landing if possible but sometimes on a steep hillside. 3 tuck, long splice, short splice, farmers eyes etc. No torches, either a hydraulic jack cutter like in the picture or an axe and hammer. I enjoyed splicing cable in a team setting, the rhythm, joking, change of pace and all was enjoyable. But I'd be hard pressed to remember the order of things now.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
I never did a big wire rope splice like those. But I could splice 3 and 4 strand arborist rope blindfolded.
treebogan
Treehouser
I learned to splice Wire Rope at trade School.
The teacher said" your never going to forget how to do the,but your going to wish you had never learned".
When you find yourself battling with an eye splice in a inch and a quarter swaged Skyline in the middle of a New Zealand summer...
The teacher said" your never going to forget how to do the,but your going to wish you had never learned".
When you find yourself battling with an eye splice in a inch and a quarter swaged Skyline in the middle of a New Zealand summer...
treebogan
Treehouser
This is me splicing the mainrope in the mud.Much less miserable than a skyline eye.
The second picture shows the backline tractor with the skyline eye that would pop a strand now and again.
The soil was volcanic pummic and the tractor would sometimes shift,hence why the tailrope block is in the dirt.We would tie the tractor back with the winch where we could but to do that you needed a stump.
The second picture shows the backline tractor with the skyline eye that would pop a strand now and again.
The soil was volcanic pummic and the tractor would sometimes shift,hence why the tailrope block is in the dirt.We would tie the tractor back with the winch where we could but to do that you needed a stump.
