throwlines--tied/ spliced eye versus slippery clove hitch/ other hitch

[SouthSoundTree]

My main climbline is spliced, but my others are not. I don't use the splice much, as I climb almost exclusively SRT.

I edited the original post to clarify that my original discussion point centered around throwline attachment to throwball.

 

[pete mctree]

Tie a fig 8 at the end of the line. No drama & works just fine. Not had a problem I can recollect

 

[HolmenTree]

I tie my line to bag with a anchor hitch with a slip. The anchor hitch with its 2 "legs" around the bag ring and the running end going straight out with no bends or kinks is as strong as a knot can possibly be .

I most times retrieve my line back into it's storage bag with a battery powered retriever, so spliced ends etc. wouldn't work for me.

 

[SouthSoundTree]

Line Tamer?

 

[MasterBlaster]

I have one laying around, somewhere.

 

[Burnham]

Bowline, girthed. Had one snag once in many years of use, broke the line free at the knot, so no real loss.

 

[HolmenTree]

Line Tamer?

I think it's called a line tamer. I bought it from Sherrills about 10 yrs ago, it's got Berkley on the side , max line for it is 2.2mm. I can stuff a storage bag with 200 ft line in lickety split with no problem. Line seems to come out of the bag better then if stuffed by hand.

I tried that trick Sherrills claims: fill a pop bottle with line in seconds. That's what sold me on buying it.

 

[bonner1040]

I just spliced a throwline for my boss... I think what I did was a locking brummell but I am not sure, I dont actually splice but i was playing with my shoelaces and it is a hollow type braid and a I made an eye. Anyway i did the same thing to the throw line and it seemed to work and is strong...
I fed the tip of the line through the center of itself to creat an eye, then fed the other end of the line through the tail of that eye. Finished it with one more pass with the original tail through the standing part and then buried that tail about a 1/2". Did the whole thing with an awl from Joann fabrics, took 20 minutes.

Used 1.75 Zing it and it worked really well, its nice and clean

 

[Marc-Antoine]

I have a hollow braid dyneema line, bought for sustaining the bigshot. I made a splice at each end.
One with a locked Brummel (not exactly but something like that), small but easy.
The other with a braided splice. This one was quite a challenge, with a magnifying glass and a needle as a splicing fid. .

I made a big loop at the both splices to girth-hitch the bag's ring.

I get some crazy knots sometimes but I don't think the tying play a role. They appear when the throw-bag bounces or takes a dead stop : it come straight back in the middle of the "flying loops" made by the quick speed's change in the line , like a lasso. Then the bag comes down and sets the fancy knot. I have often a hard time to find how to untie them :roll:

Before that, I had a cheap and crappy mason's line, 3 strands PP., with a bowline girth-hitched.
It wears fast on the bark, becomes all fusy and skinny... and one time,the last shot before I wanted to cut out the bad length, it let go the bag in the middle of the shot.

Actually, I cut some small bits from this line to make a fuse between the bag and the dyneema. Oh course, it's much more grabby than the dyneema alone, but it saved some of my days when the bag hung up. A hard pull to break the fuse, retrieve the line (the bag too, if lucky) and throw it again with an other bag.
Without the fuse, you have to pull around 500# to break the dyneema line. It's a little over my possibilities.

 

[NickfromWI]

No hitches here, for the simple reason that I can't see to untie them anymore without using glasses.

When I still lived in WI (aka the good ol days) I found that tying a throw line knot in the winter with gloves on was close to impossible. I came up with what I'd call a girth hitch pull tab. I can post a pic later, but it was basically a small tab that hung off the end of the eye so that I could easily undo the girth hitch with gloves on. It basically revolution-eyesed (see what I did there?) my throw lining.

I will post a pic later.

love
nick

 

[stig]

A seeing eye dog for throwlines, basically.
Brilliant!

 

[ClimbingFool]

I need to train a squirrel to set my throw lines.

 

[pantheraba]

Brian ain't gonna take to that too kindly.

 

[bstewert]

Slip knot 90% of the time. Slipped buntline if there's a chance of losing the bag in ivy or something.

 

[flushcut]

When I still lived in WI (aka the good ol days) I found that tying a throw line knot in the winter with gloves on was close to impossible. I came up with what I'd call a girth hitch pull tab. I can post a pic later, but it was basically a small tab that hung off the end of the eye so that I could easily undo the girth hitch with gloves on. It basically revolution-eyesed (see what I did there?) my throw lining.

I will post a pic later.

love
nick

What part of WI are you from?

 

[sotc]

Slipped figure 8, I find it hard to believe anything is much faster or less "snaggy" than that. Not that a few seconds to tie a throw ball on makes a difference at the end of the day

 

[Tucker943]

I tie the throw bag on any number of ways. I never had any gains or losses based on my throwline knot. I just tie the thing with the first knot that comes to my fingers. Plain and simple.