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Wagnaw, yes some of my old bags, but I bought a bunch from the hardware store that are welded and the same size. Thier cheap as is pretty much everything else to make them.The shot is a tad expensive, but 25lbs will make quite a few.
 
I bought steel bearings from a bearing factory in Compton. The lady was confused as to why I wanted just a few pounds of them. They are used to selling them by the ton. They sold them to me for $10...but I think that was just to get me out of their hair!

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Bird shot Nick....lol....only comes in steel now...pretty sure anyway.
 
I considered that- but around here I could only get it in 10 pound containers and I know I'm not going to be making THAT many bags.

If I remember my research correctly- steel is not as heavy as lead- but I didn't want lead spilling all over in the event of an (inevitable) breakage.

I looked into tungsten (I think it was tungsten) which is heavier (denser?) than both of them but it was like $30 a pound and not available back then, with all the retailers blaming the war for the shortage of the metal.

It coulda been a diff metal, though. Can't remember for sure.

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Hey klimbinfool, do you think you could possibly post a step by step some time and the materials used. I'd love to start being able to to make my own throw bags.
 
At the top it will make it tougher but the bottom should be addressed because thats usually where it comes appart.

I was first thinking of the 2nd bag pic with tappered ends.

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As far as the bottom goes, what if it was sewn closed and THEN turn the tube inside out to help protect the bottom stitching?

You could also run a 2nd stich row on the bottom above the first so if one row fails, you still have a back up row that will keep the shot from falling out!

I had an idea for the web peice that forms a loop for the ring...

What about running this loop webbing through the bag and have it sewn (conected) to the bottom. It will already be folded but only half way so one end is in the middle of the bag sewn to itself forming a loop at top and the other end is sewn (attached) to the bottom.

This way, if & when it gets stuck, your not only pulling the bag at the ring thats sewn to the top...your ALSO pulling the bag from the bottom as well!

It will creat a much stronger bag (top & bottom). While pulling hard, likely the only thing that will break will be your line!


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HC
 
As far as the bottom goes, what if it was sewn closed and THEN turn the tube inside out to help protect the bottom stitching?

That's how I made the bottom of the ones I made. Eventually I abandoned the webbing and started with a canvas tube (it was more flexible). I had a webbing loop that ran all the way through the bag, with a loop at both ends. I tied straight to the webbing. Tying to the webbing was a pain (unless you girthhitched like I do)- but I wanted something that everyone would enjoy.

I think they are best with the ring on them.

I'll see if I can dig them up and post some pics...

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I think you can buy Bismuth shot. It is also a lead shot substitute. or possibly copper coated lead shot.
 
I just use the electrical tape method and call it good. Presently I think one is wrapped with some small cord. Well...........good enough for my team. Maybe at some point in the future I wouldn't mind making my own out of tube webbing, looks like it would last a long time.
 
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Will do Ranger.....see if I can post it tommarrow for ya..
 
I think we are seeing the beginning of the Treehouse Throwbag Company!!!!

If there's interest, we could refine the design, then have a few people making the bags and sending them out to people. I'd be glad to do it. I would expect to get paid to cover the cost of the supplies and shipping, but not really looking to make a profit here...

Just an idea.

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Hey Nick,



I was also talking about using tube webbing for the T-Bag!

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BTW, if you need any material to play around with , let me know, I still have a big roll of that material I used for makeing rope bags with. Its kida like kevlar though.

Let me know,


Bob
 
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The bottom of mine are already turned in about a half inch and then folded twice in the configuration you see. The top is also turned in about a half inch and then folded at a 45 to create the tapper. The bottom could be done that way as well, but I was trying something different and it seemed to work.
 
:X I get this complaint at Wesspur at least once a week - "why can't you make a throw weight that won't bust open when it hits the concrete?" The answer is, we can - out of solid steel. But if it has to be a fabric bag containing steel or lead shot, there is just no way to make them indestructible. I've experimented with different stitching patterns (across top & bottom instead of up & down the sides, double/triple stitched seams), different material (everything from Cordura to Sea Tarp), and even different threads (the thicker the gauge, the better). The better designs last longer, but all it takes is a single thin spot in the thread or a stitch 1/32" off to create a weakness that will cause it to break when it hits the ground. And it only takes 1 broken weight for somebody to decide that since your product broke when it fell from 160' onto pavement it must be cheap Chinese-made crap.

FYI - 12 oz weights almost never break. It's the heavier 16 or 20 oz weights that have the most problems.
 
I've never broken one, either. But I almost never pull it out of the tree and let it fall...not to keep the bag from breaking, but to keep it from getting tangled up in the tree. That, and I seldom work over paved surfaces...rocks aplenty, but not solid sheets of it :).
 
I have busted one open, a vinyl covered one that was 4 years old and it landed on a sharp rock... duct taped it , and it is still in action :) the rest of mine are all fabric ones from Weaver, and yes, it was a 16 oz that broke ;)
 
I should clarify...I have worn out a bag or two, where the ring is stitched on. Fabric wear, mostly.

But never busted one open.
 
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