throw bags

[brendonv]

10oz here, it's hit plenty of immovable objects and keeps on ticking.

 

[klimbinfool]

It would be very rare occasion if a bag lasted me a year. Infact if it did, I should hang it on my mantle and relish the fact that it made it that long.

I went through four 12oz this year and just ordered four more.

I'll beat the ones I sewd up this week, and let you know the outcome.

 

[Bounce]

I've been using the same 3 throw weight for years now myself. I always wonder why some people break so many when others of us break so few. If anybody has any explanations here, it might help in designing a better weight.

 

[NickfromWI]

I don't think so- Sean. I've never busted a bag in 10 years. I think it's just in how you use them. When the bag is coming down, I stop it at face level just about every time. If I missed, I'm going to want to remove the bag for the rethrow. If I made my shot, I'm going to want to clip on my climbing line now. Either way, both of these tasks are made easier with the throwbag hovering 4' in the air.

If I miss, but have that feeling that if I pull the line out with bag attached it won't get stuck, I'll go ahead and do that...many times I'll catch it when it get's to me.

I've never considered any of these as throwbag preservation techniques- but maybe they are!

love
nick

 

[treesmith]

All my throwbag failures occurred because of faulty sewing. You could see where the seam was only about 1/16" from the edge of the material. It doesn't take but one or two hard landings to burst it right open. I had one burst last week on the fourth throw of its life. A simple solution would be to double-stitch it making one pass, then another about 1/4" from it. That way, if one seam burst, at least there'd be another to back it up. I am talking to my daughter about making one using a circle of canvas. I'll draw the lines where ordinarily it would be cut and seamed, but rather than cut it, just sew along the lines. the excess, puckered canvas will be inside the bag, with no opening to burst. If the seams fail, the bag will bulge out, but no shot will be lost. Just add the old electrical tape, and keep chunking.

 

[NickfromWI]

I have a nylon cordura material that had a high-impact resin matrix (little plastic dots) all over it. I got a sample of it to use to make throw bags. It's holding up fine so far.

I like the idea of using the whole piece of fabric without cuts. That would make a bulkier bag, though- if that matters.

I think when weaver (was it weaver?) tried to copy the harrison rocket, we all learned the importance of generous seam allowances!

love
nick

 

[simplypete]

I had one burst not too long ago on the way up. It hit the underside of a limb with a bit of speed. It surprised me that it was shot raining down on the house and deck I was working over. I think the way they are made is just fine. Just keep them at a reasonable cost. Like everything in this line of work, they get used and break.:what:

 

[OTGBOSTON]

That happened to me once Pete, I thought I was getting stung by a buch of bees as the shot rained down on me! Thats the only throwbag failure I've ever experienced.

 

[Blinky]

That's funny, same here. I can't remember exactly how it got opened up but there was shot raining down on the roof and gutters. It took a minute to figure out exactly what the noise was.

I don't break'em often but every once in a while a seam gets popped. I retire them if I see a busted seam even if they don't leak. I've got two 12oz Sherrill neo bags that have lasted almost a year.

 

[Bounce]

Double stitched seams are standard these days. But they still break if they smack something hard enough or if the seams are too close together.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

My two are still taking a licking and keep on ticking...
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[Hobby Climber]

...Watching that clip reminds me of "Lawn Darts" for some reason! LOL



I had a bag blow out this past weekend! Its the Vinyl one and again was the stitching. Been using the Big Shot and I kept hitting the underside of a limb. Dosn't take much!

Last few bags I busted, the stitching was fine but the material ripped! To many impacts I guess!

I use the T-bags a lot. Not only for setting a tie in point for my climb line, but also for pulling dead limbs out with just the zing-it line!

I have better accuracy with the big shot but I still manage to hit the under part of limbs often so its safe to say a bag will last me only about 2 to 3 years on average.


HC

 

[treetx]

Don't try to re-invent the wheel. Just toss a rocket!

Harrison Rocket...

.02

 

[klimbinfool]

The longivity of a bag depends alot on how much you use them and how. when I used a bucket truck every day, a bag would last me forever, if I had to climb I would just do a bucket transfer. Even if i did have to use a throw line to advance, the bag would never hit the ground. If your not climbing every day, again the bags will last, for the most part. Theres a lot of gravel drives im my area and i'm sure that plays a big part in seem blow outs.

NIck that is the proper way to to it as I mentioned in the beginning of this thread, but I dont take the time to do that unless theres a possiblilty of getting stuck. To me it boils down to a time issue, seems crazy and without going into detail, that amount of time adds up for me.

When you take a item such as a throw bag and go from making them yourself to a production line, theres always going to be flaws. I guess if you dont like something, change product or try and make it yourself.

Greg

 

[sotc]

I'm the same, if I know a throw is off I will often times jerk it back to the ground before it gets to the tree. That seems to increase the velocity of the bag, I hav 3 blown out bags in my tool box right now

 

[Blinky]

Rockets are nice, I bought two of'em at $22 a pop, they were stolen the next week when I was contracting on a big crew.

Nobody steals Neos.

I'd like to see a US equivalent to the Rocket, the construction is top notch. I'm sure importing them from the land of the Zeas isn't exactly cost efficient though.

 

[treetx]

The ring on the rockets is especially nice....

I don't see how treemen do without a falteimer+throwline+rockets.... and two of those set ups so you can use line 2 to retrieve line 1(sans climbing) if it gets stuck.

My falteimer+rockets got stolen working Ike last year

 

[Blinky]

The ring is the only part I had a problem with. I attach my rope by pulling it through the ring and tying a stopper. The harrison ring is a tight fit. Still, nice throwbags though.

I use a falseheimer from Sherrills, it's pretty trashed now. Bishop has the same cube for $35. I'm gonna get a couple of'em.

 

[treetx]

I like that small ring on the rockets.... one thing I don't like on the Sherrill Not-Rockets... just like the Harrison but with a big ring.


falt = fold
eimer = bucket ....... I learn you folks German eventually.....