I googled "problems with Ram trucks" and "problems with Ford trucks" last night and read the consumer affairs web page comments from people, it's pretty scary how expensive repairs can get on new trucks AND maybe even more than that the down time you can have waiting for dealership repairs. Ten to seventeen thousand $ in a swat and days, weeks, and sometimes months in repairs.
I will look at forums on 2017 Rams and Fords and see what kind of experiences people are having when it's not slit your wrist catastrophic.
Jim that is an interesting point about savings of a diesel over gas. I'm not really after that, or resale. I intend to use this truck for the next 20 or more years and pretty much use it up. It's what combination makes the most sense and will get good tree work done.
I drove a new F650 with a chip box and gas engine and it had good power empty and not pulling anything. The F650 has a higher profile than I want but maybe I should find someone with a F550 gasser that I can ride in or drive loaded and towing.
I did do a ride along with a local to me lady that hauls loads of compost and chips from green waste recycler. She had a Ram 5500 with diesel. She said it drives about the same loaded as empt-and it felt that way to me. She had a twelve foot bed with four foot sides that she carried full.
I want this truck to tow a 5200 lb 90XP chipper most of the time for pruning jobs, sometimes a dump trailer that can go up to 17,400 lbs, and later I want to get a 90 foot Nifty Lift or tracked spider lift that I tow with it.