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[stig]

Be interesting to see if they stop sending money to build and support mosques all over the World.

From what we see in the news here, he seems pretty set on reforming Saudi Arabia and has the means to do so.

 

[gf beranek]

Point of big change, possibly.

 

[Mick!]

Released this morning.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43648896

 

[stig]

Sounds like the rules are the same as here.

Reasonable force and heat of the moment being the key words.

 

[BlackSmith]

Released on bail. Charges dropped..?

 

[Mick!]

You can read can’t you Bob?

 

[FireFighterZero]

I suspect they are looking for the accomplice in order to build a better case against the man they just "released".

 

[Mick!]

If they really suspected him of First degree murder they would never have released him on bail after 36 hours, with a promise of being re-interviewed some time in May.

Like I said before, it’s not the US, things are done differently.

 

[Tree09]

Here they just set the bond so high that only the rich can pay it.

 

[Mick!]

I’m guessing they’ll be no sureties and minimum conditions on his bail.

 

[stig]

Sounds weird,Bob, I know, but in Western Europe you usually have to go to trial when you kill somebody.

We're a bit backwards that way.

 

[FireFighterZero]

First degree Mick?

Is that the only kind of murder over there?

 

[Mick!]

Ok, so it seems that what you would call first degree we call murder with malice aforethought, nice use of archaic words I reckon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_English_law

 

[FireFighterZero]

Sheesh. I guess thats why I am not a lawyer.


Its no little thing to be charged with murder/manslaughter or whatever.


You may not be convicted, but you might still have your life severely impacted.


Over here, at least, a charge of Murder, or Manslaughter has a lot of politics involved.

 

[FireFighterZero]

This is where it gets interesting, in my opinion.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter_in_English_law

 

[Mick!]

I know what you’re saying, and I can understand why, from the outside it may look bizarre, even unfair. Certainly there’s lots of knee jerk reaction over here as well about the issues we’re discussing here.

Proper and thorough investigation can only be a good thing I reckon, he’ll be exonerated, you can be sure of that.

 

[Mick!]

This is where it gets interesting, in my opinion.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter_in_English_law

Yeah, I’m glad I’m not a lawyer as well.

 

[gf beranek]

Tribunal law and sentencing. Protecting his home, the bloke should be exonerated.

 

[Mick!]

https://news.sky.com/story/pensioner-faces-no-further-action-over-death-of-burglar-11319514

He has been.

 

[gf beranek]

That's good news. as it should be. Excellent.

 

[BlackSmith]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29179/londons-mayor-declares-intense-new-knife-control-emily-zanotti

 

[MasterBlaster]

Well isn't that special...

 

[Mick!]

Yeah saw that, mostly black on black teen gang stuff, incredible, shameful stat, most think the directive about reducing ‘stop & search’ is to blame.

Still, at least they recognize the problem and will enact laws.

They’re not saying “right, everyone should have knives, the answer is more knives”

 

[stig]

We've had that for years.
Some areas in the inner city where knife wielding second generation muslim immigrants have been a major problem, have been declared so called "stop and frisk" areas for years.

Since the only ones stopped and frisked are young muslim males, I have no problem with it.

 

[FireFighterZero]

Its Yuri Gagarin day!

First manned space flight.