How'd it go today?

I’ve seen guys with big mil trucks walk away with the sled. Like off to the parking lot 😆

Story is the truck is a ‘73 with most components rebuilt in ‘90s which it makes it more unfortunate they oversped it and threw a rod. Very heavy pistons, rods don’t like RPM. Piston lodged in upper bore. They drove it home. Presumably the low half of rod beat all the holes in the block until it was in pieces in the oil pan or ejected. I test ran it to see if the air compressor, alternator, water pump, etc. worked. They did.



I bypassed the fuel system…

Radiator leaks, common. Big old school heavy, truck shakes them apart.

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A diesel bucket truck I drove didn't have a red line from what I remember, but it only revved to 2500, and was marked up to 4,000. I accidentally reach 4,000 more or less once when I got the wrong gear downshifting. It was a 7 speed with 4 gears in the middle, so it's an easy mistake, and I was tired, so my reaction time was slow. No failure thankfully.
 
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It's a good way to break stuff. Two things to consider:

1) Pulling a sled in low gear allows time for the engine to reach peak output. Peak power + lowest gear = maximum stress on the drive train. Not to mention longer time before it stalls...

2) As the load increases slowing the truck to a stop, power is actually going back through the drive train in reverse. Acceleration requires power, acceleration is a change in speed, so to slow something (accelerating it in the opposite direction) means power is going in backward, and depending on how fast the truck is forced to slow down, the drive train could experience way more torque than the engine could ever supply.

In pulling videos, trucks often break just before they stall, after having experienced higher than maximum torque for a few seconds. The weight of the sled, if on the truck, can increase traction such that the wheels don't slip as easily as they would if a driveshaft starts twisting, so it gets twisted until it snaps.
max tq on the engine is considerable less than my clutch or transmission is rated for, first gear isn't a low ratio at all so the diff and U joints should take it

I do agree that it's a good way to break stuff, and was a consideration, especially my hitch thats only rated to 16,000 pounds, everything would most likely be OK

I will be putting either a brownie box in, or if I feel really fancy, a 13 speed Eaton, low ratio's would save lots of wear and tear on everything by not having to use the throttle to get moving, less RPM's = less shock load risk, same for closer ratio's, my synchro 5 speed will either refuse to go into gear, or the synchros will grab and let you shift way too soon resulting in grinding or dropping into gear really hard, specifically 2nd gear, it doesn't care how close the RPM's are, so if you're in a rush to grab 2nd you can get into doing severe damage really quick, especially since its almost an 80% split between 1st and 2nd so you're back to nearly a complete stop before the engine as slowed enough to grab 2nd


You're only about 2 hours away from me, so I figure your roads are very similar to mine, you know the sort of hills I'm encountering, add in living right on the river so we see lots of driveways with 20-30 degree inclines, no clue why people are so stupid as to spend 5-10 million on a house, and have a driveway you can't drive up in the rain, but they do it and think its cool, there was one specific driveway that my bucket truck wouldn't hill start on, 4 speed Alison, not sure which converter it had but it would stall the converter and start rolling backwards, that one sucked to get out of
 
The drive train could have a lot of fatigue. It's usually old trucks I see fail.

I've driven a 4 speed Allison, and it wouldn't stall the converter. You could just sit there on the gas and brake if you wanted, except it would trigger a brake alarm. Actually, I wish it would lock the converter or a clutch or something for better mpg. I had one hill that I probably wouldn't get up loaded, but luckily I only had to go up empty with chipper at 5-8mph. I did break a drive shaft on that truck while trying to get out of mud. It didn't feel like it got sudden traction, so it could have been metal fatigue. only a 165hp engine in it limited to 3,300rpm.
 
its possible theres fatigue, but its a low mile truck and everything behind the transmission is like new or new, no play in any bearings besides the carrier, it has a little but nothing concerning, my bucket truck had almost 1/4 turn of play in the diff input, made a very loud thud if you shifted from drive to reverse

my Allison would lock up in third and fourth which was nice, but it still sucked, 56mph downhill and drank diesel, my dump truck will cruise at 70, 75 downhill, but it does drink diesel, 50 gallon tank gets me about 200-250 miles on a good day, another reason I want either an aux box or a 13 speed, stay in boost and avoid lugging so much, should save on fuel, especially having O/D on the highway, right now you're stuck sitting on the governor at highway speeds which is good for a DT360, but bad for your wallet
 
Had a meeting early. Got our jobs done by 2:30. Went to start tomorrows job and they had a car parked under the removal and we’re not home so an early day. The boy and I ran the heck out of the rc trucks until I left to watch my oldest play softball. They won. Then I started putting my mini back together. I got the motor mounts in and the new bell housing installed before calling it for the night. Now for the three S’s and off to bed.

And my wife thought she put beef short ribs in the crock pot today. For some reason we had ox tail in the freezer and that’s what she made on accident. She cooked it in some sort of Japanese bbq sauce. I was the only one to eat it. Really wasn’t bad.
 
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