Cobleskill
Treehouser
I don't know how anyone plunks down that kind of money. I think ours is 80 because the truckers had the border shut down. I could be wrong.
Fuel prices
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CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
We have large taxing on our fuel. Voted in by our Dem majority for roads etc. Infra structure. Newsome sold it by saying it would not go toward the high speed rail. Guess what. Bull shit. More greasy palms for a train that does not exist.
First our Gov ran on would not keep building the rail. Then only a little bit of rail once elected. The no gas tax for rail. Now it goes toward it. Bunch of bullshit.
I'll see if I can find the break down of the tax structure. They printed it on out for my account at the commercial fuel stop I fill up at. Diesel taxes were insane.
pete mctree
Treehouser
Problem is that crude is a traded commodity internationally- no government action can control the price. I’m just waiting for BP, Shell etc to post huge quarterly profits which no government in the world has the balls to windfall tax
Mellow
BCMA
You mean like Pfizer and Moderna?
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Here is a small example of my monthly break down on my charge card there.
My 91 octane for equipment is a prime example. I'll see if Ican find my cash reciept for the diesel later.
With out the taxes added in, my 5 gal can is 18.39. Add federal and state and that same can is now 22.45. This was before the huge jump. So like 1.00 per gallon more. Most of that was State sales and excise tax.
My 91 octane for equipment is a prime example. I'll see if Ican find my cash reciept for the diesel later.
With out the taxes added in, my 5 gal can is 18.39. Add federal and state and that same can is now 22.45. This was before the huge jump. So like 1.00 per gallon more. Most of that was State sales and excise tax.
Burnham
Woods walker
All of this may well be true, but the price at the station Frans reported is so far above what others in your state are charging that the difference surely is not based on the issues you state, Stephen.
That's why I think that specific seller is price gouging.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Maybe so. But there are more factors involved as well Burnam. Local taxes and shipping surcharges for example. And yes, captive audience, and tourist gouging.
Trucking fuel is expensive and even more so now with the higher prices. When fuel goes up, trucking adds a surcharge for the fuel cost for the delivery. Same with all trucked in items, food, feed, sundries. Fuel station up the hill damn near gets 1-2.00 more per gallon near the gates of Yosemite than my town. Same county. Some gouging, some in that it costs more to get it there and costs more to do business there. Los Angeles has higher brick and morter costs and their prices are at least a dollar more per gallon than here.
Not saying gouging does not go on. But, you have to consider every factor involved.
And that would include domestic oil production being cut back and importing it from enemy number one.
Trucking fuel is expensive and even more so now with the higher prices. When fuel goes up, trucking adds a surcharge for the fuel cost for the delivery. Same with all trucked in items, food, feed, sundries. Fuel station up the hill damn near gets 1-2.00 more per gallon near the gates of Yosemite than my town. Same county. Some gouging, some in that it costs more to get it there and costs more to do business there. Los Angeles has higher brick and morter costs and their prices are at least a dollar more per gallon than here.
Not saying gouging does not go on. But, you have to consider every factor involved.
And that would include domestic oil production being cut back and importing it from enemy number one.
Nutball
TreeHouser
When the price increase was first starting, I found it odd that the price of e85 seemed to have swapped with regular at one particular station with e85 normally being a lot cheaper. Today I saw they are now the same price over $4/gal.
Little things like idling down the mini or chipper when stepping away for a bit go a long way toward saving fuel.
Little things like idling down the mini or chipper when stepping away for a bit go a long way toward saving fuel.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Why I get pissy when I hear the mini not idle down. Or move something 10 feet tha could have easily been hand drug.
Nutball
TreeHouser
My boss always walks away with it full throttle. I used to think it got terrible "mileage" until I started idling it down more, and using half throttle unless speed was really needed. Then a tank lasts a week or so instead of a day or 2.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
First of the week regular gasoline was $4.09 a gallon .Yesterday it was $3.89 .However saying that in reference to California it's not even on the same page .California is another world and always has been .I have no idea how a person could afford to live in that state .
Mellow
BCMA
The throttle cable broke on my Avant months ago, so I have only one speed. It looks like a complicated job to replace it. Maybe I'll just use the wheelbarrow until gas prices go down again. 
SkwerI
Treehouser
Now that I think about it, the throttle cable would be a major hassle to replace. The engine is on the back and the control is up front, with the body hinge in between. Can you get a generic replacement throttle cable and mount it on the back?
Nutball
TreeHouser
Maybe install a wireless control system? It might be as time consuming, but without having to take the machine apart. How much would the dealer charge to fix it?
Marc-Antoine
TreeHouser
I was off with the % of taxes. I checked again.
At the lowest during the lockdown, it was 69% for the diesel and 73% for the gas.
This automn, it was 57% and 60%
Now, it's 45% and 50%
That changes because a big part of the taxes is frozen since 2018, so the variation is mainly from the supply. If they say so...
Our gov. even makes us a gift of 0.15 euro/liter to ease the rize (taxe's part rize). Kind isn't it?
At the lowest during the lockdown, it was 69% for the diesel and 73% for the gas.
This automn, it was 57% and 60%
Now, it's 45% and 50%
That changes because a big part of the taxes is frozen since 2018, so the variation is mainly from the supply. If they say so...
Our gov. even makes us a gift of 0.15 euro/liter to ease the rize (taxe's part rize). Kind isn't it?
BlackSmith
Uncivil
FJB we need more of this.
www.westernjournal.com
Now let’s do coal.
Montana Takes Matters Into Own Hands, Restarts Dormant Oil Wells Amid Biden's Gas Price Explosion
In response to rapidly rising gas prices, the Montana Petroleum Association is reopening a series of dormant oil wells.
www.westernjournal.com
Now let’s do coal.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
vharrison
Island Girl
Today, running on about empty, 96.00 to fill our truck. 🧐 That’s crazy. Like Jonny said, time to start riding the bike.
Mellow
BCMA
Stopped for diesel on the way back to the shop after work today. Dang pumps shut off at $100 so I had to ration it between the truck, the Avant, and the Nifty Lift.
Nutball
TreeHouser
Pull up to the next pump and go again.
flushcut
TreeHouser
This is the very reason I now buy fuel from a wholesale supplier. All the damn re swiping. I want to drop a hundred gallons not re swipe.
SeanKroll
Treehouser
I buy from a commercial supplier.
15 cents of pump price with an ACH and e-billing.
Annual records available.
No inconvenience store.
15 cents of pump price with an ACH and e-billing.
Annual records available.
No inconvenience store.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Yup.
