SeanKroll
Treehouser
What do those taxes fund?
Fuel prices
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BlackSmith
Uncivil
Politicians
BlackSmith
Uncivil
They wouldn’t dare. Like buying stock in EV manufacturers then ol Slo Joe signing an executive order that all . gov cars be electric. That’s not how they roll. 
SeanKroll
Treehouser
Why is Washington about 50 cents per gallon and Pennsylvania about 70 or 75 cents per gallon?
We have no state income tax.
Pennsylvanis politicians must be the richest, i guess.
Does any fuel tax go for roads, for example?
It seems like saying politicians is saying nothing.
Obviously, there is government pork.
Is the government setting prices for oil companies?
(Some) people can have their own solar panels and solar panels can be built into cars. There are plenty of opportunities for energy companies to build solar farms.
What is that energy independence thing people have mentioned?
We have no state income tax.
Pennsylvanis politicians must be the richest, i guess.
Does any fuel tax go for roads, for example?
It seems like saying politicians is saying nothing.
Obviously, there is government pork.
Is the government setting prices for oil companies?
(Some) people can have their own solar panels and solar panels can be built into cars. There are plenty of opportunities for energy companies to build solar farms.
What is that energy independence thing people have mentioned?
BlackSmith
Uncivil
“Is the government setting prices for oil companies?”
By policy yes.
By policy yes.
Sean, you gotta realize that the whole tax thing is basically a commie idea, meant to enslave their populations and make their politicians rich.
Must be why the Scandinavian countries have their economies shot to shit, their school systems don't work, their roads and infrastructure looks like the back end of Russia, and they have a lot of fat, happy politicians.
Or, wait, was that the US?
I get confused easily.
Was it maybe Scandinavia where the happy commies have a functioning medicare system, a ditto school system ( See, us commie kids even learn foreign languages sort of well), road and stuff that is new or newish and always in good repair and close to zero corruption.
Of course our fuel prices are waaaayyyy high, but according to Scott, that is Biden's fault.
Must be why the Scandinavian countries have their economies shot to shit, their school systems don't work, their roads and infrastructure looks like the back end of Russia, and they have a lot of fat, happy politicians.
Or, wait, was that the US?
I get confused easily.
Was it maybe Scandinavia where the happy commies have a functioning medicare system, a ditto school system ( See, us commie kids even learn foreign languages sort of well), road and stuff that is new or newish and always in good repair and close to zero corruption.
Of course our fuel prices are waaaayyyy high, but according to Scott, that is Biden's fault.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
Yet they’ll spend their life savings trying to migrate here. 
Mellow
BCMA
The local Wawa pumps now shut off at $175 instead of $100 like they used to. Better, but still not enough to fill up my truck today. Just above 30 gallons.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
lumberjack
Young man on the go
This morning I texted to get on the list for another fuel delivery. Fuel prices aren’t fun, but I really enjoy being able to fill up where we park the trucks.
Guessing $3k to refill the tank currently, we’ll see when they get out here.
Guessing $3k to refill the tank currently, we’ll see when they get out here.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Oddly, gas prices on the coast are 15 cents less than inland prices over the hill, in Willits and Ukiah.
That's unusual. Actually drop to 6.05 for regular on the coast.
All subject to change without notice.
That's unusual. Actually drop to 6.05 for regular on the coast.
All subject to change without notice.
I'm going to my PA job tomorrow. I thought it was finished last year, but they need us to set R/W monuments to finish it out, and release the funds. I'll be getting a couple cans of corn free gas while I'm up there, and I'll stop by the sawshop. Curious what it's gonna cost. Gas is about $5/G here. I'm thinking corn free will be close to $7.
BeerGeek
Tree Numbnutz
The ethanol free gas should ne priced the same, if not slightly less, if it's from a pump station up there. I recently was in northern PA at one of the ones I get it from, and the 89 ethanol free was actually $0.12 cheaper a gallon. Can't believe it wasn't sold out, but then again, it's still $0.40 more expensive than regular, so with people getting pinched like they are, kinda makes sense.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
That's really interesting.
They were always a bit more. Going from memory, I was paying $3.40 when gas was $2.40 down here. From the same station, I think it was the most expensive gas product. It's a mid grade. 91 octane if I remember right, but still more expensive than the corn premium. I could be misremembering also. I haven't been up there in awhile. I usually only go when I need gas, and that's once a year. It was even longer this last time cause I bought a NO SPILL gascan from the sawshop and filled it on my way by, so I was a bit overstocked for awhile.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Fixed my diesel in time for 7.00 per gallon fuel. Oh well.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Regional pricing of fuel simply confounds me.
Despite major refineries in the Bay Area... fuel prices at the pump in the Bay Area run the highest in the State, and incur the most minimal of trucking costs to the pump.
Yet in the midwest, with significantly higher trucking costs to the pump fuel prices stand as the lowest nationwide.
Logically it leaves a lot to wonder.
Realistically it leaves nothing to wonder.
Despite major refineries in the Bay Area... fuel prices at the pump in the Bay Area run the highest in the State, and incur the most minimal of trucking costs to the pump.
Yet in the midwest, with significantly higher trucking costs to the pump fuel prices stand as the lowest nationwide.
Logically it leaves a lot to wonder.
Realistically it leaves nothing to wonder.
BeerGeek
Tree Numbnutz
Gerry, the pricing has to do more with taxes than the logistics costs to get it to the pumps. You live in what is commonly referred to a "socialist nirvana", where your progressive pols add more taxes, fees and regulations, some on a more local level than statewide, making it more expensive even though shipping costs should play a more prominent role (as they do in my state; the closer to the refineries, the cheaper the fuel usually is, as there is only the state/fed tax to deal with). Also see Bob's meme on the previous page about govt. controls, which your state has added more on top of the feds, and it becomes even muddier.
We've got lots and lots of refineries here, with pipelines to distribute it everywhere. Trucking is reserved for the final trip from the terminal to the gas station. So no matter which station you stop at, it's all the same fuel, only the additives are changed.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Thanks. I'm just pissing and moaning.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Seth just recently bought his old bosses F350. But barely drives it. His girl friend lets him drive the eco car and they furnish him with transport at his new job in Nevada. That boy! Always showing me up 
Burnham
Woods walker
Nice ride. Nicer than anything I had at his age.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
He is doing core drilling for exploritory mining. Kid definately a moover and groover. Not sure where he got that from.
treetx
Traveler extraordinaire
Correct. It is a totally fungible product once it leaves the refinery. The retailer pulls it from the rack by truck and adds additives but the gas from a Shell gast station might be from a Chevron refinery....
