Pulling wood out of the brush?
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sawinredneck
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Never got my email today
I called, batteries are dead on his camera. He thinks he has a bucket he will throw in? And the price he threw me on the used grapple
I'd be an idiot not to buy it!!!
I might have another machine sold, iffy, but........ If I can pull that off it makes his trip worthwhile
Oddly enough, got a call this afternoon for a concrete job, remove two sections of the driveway and replace them. Be a nice test for it!! Owner is no real hurry, so I can R&R on section at a time (two 12x13 pads). I'm likeing this more all the time!!! It's good to like something right now!!
I called, batteries are dead on his camera. He thinks he has a bucket he will throw in? And the price he threw me on the used grapple
I'd be an idiot not to buy it!!!I might have another machine sold, iffy, but........ If I can pull that off it makes his trip worthwhile
Oddly enough, got a call this afternoon for a concrete job, remove two sections of the driveway and replace them. Be a nice test for it!! Owner is no real hurry, so I can R&R on section at a time (two 12x13 pads). I'm likeing this more all the time!!! It's good to like something right now!!
wiley_p
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http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/html/94241305/94241305.html Check this out, I used this system in Forestry school, works tits. Hell of a lot better than my attempt at doing a link.
wiley_p
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HAAAHH! hells tinklin bells it worked. Cool.
Al Smith
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That type yarding is basically the same thing used in what's called a slack line .Often used for quarries etc . A real old system .The last I ever saw one was in a quarry between Dayton and Cincy ..
Never the less that dragging firewood up slopes or out of a swamp would be for the birds as far as I'm concerned .Lotsa work .
Never the less that dragging firewood up slopes or out of a swamp would be for the birds as far as I'm concerned .Lotsa work .
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Rob
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90 miles for 2 cord, gonna be hard to make money regardless of price. When you get the extraction worked out I would consider cutting the timber for a while and then try and hire a large truck for a day to move serious cordage. Otherwise your gonna have to eat at least 2 hours a cord on travel time. Also make it easier to move your equipment in and out, not needed on jobsite daily.
Your druggies are not gonna steal wood they have to carry 100'
Your druggies are not gonna steal wood they have to carry 100'
Al Smith
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Wood pirates don't usually fool with stuff they have to man handle,just easy pickens .
sawinredneck
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90 miles for 2 cord, gonna be hard to make money regardless of price. When you get the extraction worked out I would consider cutting the timber for a while and then try and hire a large truck for a day to move serious cordage. Otherwise your gonna have to eat at least 2 hours a cord on travel time. Also make it easier to move your equipment in and out, not needed on jobsite daily.
Your druggies are not gonna steal wood they have to carry 100'
Looked into that as well Rob. the problem comes that my truck is my only means of transportation. It costs me the about the same to drive out there and back empty as it does loaded.
So I go out cut for two days and come back. Go back and cut for two more days.
Now I have to drive back out with equipment, or hire help, to load the big truck, hire the big truck pay driver time and fuel.
Now I have five hard days, three fillups in my truck, a BUNCH of money in the big truck and I have to hope and pray the weather holds to be able to get the wood out. For eight cord?
My method is tedious and laborous, but sit down and do the math on some other options, I have, and it's really about the most cost effective way I have found to date.
tntree
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sawinredneck
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DTW902
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Hey Dave/tntree let me know if you come to Kansas with a mini for Andy.
We can have lunch or supper and a few beers, my treat.... Sound like a plan Andy you get a mini and free food and beer....
We can have lunch or supper and a few beers, my treat.... Sound like a plan Andy you get a mini and free food and beer....
sawinredneck
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Hey Dave/tntree let me know if you come to Kansas with a mini for Andy.
We can have lunch or supper and a few beers, my treat.... Sound like a plan Andy you get a mini and free food and beer....
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........................ BEER
Right now it's looking to be next weekish, but you know how that goes
sawinredneck
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Maybe we can get a sitter and I can get the elusive wife to come
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DTW902
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There ya go, tell her, you will take her for a cruse on your new set of wheels....
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Newfie
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Ha, a fuzzy Gerry B. Cool effect.
sawinredneck
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rbtree
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Andy, can you get a line set up high in a tree behind the wood?
Check this out....
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Check this out....
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sawinredneck
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That is an interesting concept Roger!! Very possibly would work, just depends on how many times I would have to re-direct it.
rbtree
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If its hard walking around, just attach a haulback line to the traveling block. Then, you can pull the speedline and block back to the next turn....and off to one side a ways would be fine, if there's nothing in the way.
We used this rigging as an alternative to a high main line with a pull line on it and a haulback....required one line instead of three....and one winch instead of two.
We used this rigging as an alternative to a high main line with a pull line on it and a haulback....required one line instead of three....and one winch instead of two.
Al Smith
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So ,let me get this straight .You are hauling out on the bight of the line which is set high up around a block with one end on power and the other end snubbed off and payed out ?
rbtree
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Nope, Al....
The lines were set to later pull trees over. We used them to yard brush out, by tensioning the slacked line with the powered GRCS. This takes the bight (bend) out of the line, which lifts the load up and out...
kinda the reverse of a speedline, as it is slacked at the last second to slow down the load.....
or tensioned to lift a branch up and around after its been cut, and then let zip to the lz
Prolly a misnomer, me calling it a reverse speed line...but it does pick the load up instead of letting it down.
And it works really well!
The lines were set to later pull trees over. We used them to yard brush out, by tensioning the slacked line with the powered GRCS. This takes the bight (bend) out of the line, which lifts the load up and out...
kinda the reverse of a speedline, as it is slacked at the last second to slow down the load.....
or tensioned to lift a branch up and around after its been cut, and then let zip to the lz
Prolly a misnomer, me calling it a reverse speed line...but it does pick the load up instead of letting it down.
And it works really well!
CurSedVoyce
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Yeah, Rob and I are going to be trying this method in the near future for yarding the brush and wood up a hill if we have trees high enough to off set the incline of the slope. Take the slack out and now the dang thing will run down the line and up the hill. Have a black oak I will be trying it on in the near future.
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If you don't, then just set a mainline as high as you can, which will need to be slacked to access the load, then tightened to lift the load. Put a traveling block on the line, with a haul back if necessary, and a pull line to winch the load uphill. Essentially high lead logging. You'll need a way to tension the mainline, and a winch.
CurSedVoyce
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We are looking at getting a gas winch for the job .. And of course it can be used for other things 
I will add a retrieval line with block just in case.
It's is a lot like yarding in logging. I been researching this for months. We'll use w winch to tension the main line, and I have some ideas on using a good acesnder/adjuster for holding the line if I have to transfer the winch onto the retrieval line
I will add a retrieval line with block just in case.
It's is a lot like yarding in logging. I been researching this for months. We'll use w winch to tension the main line, and I have some ideas on using a good acesnder/adjuster for holding the line if I have to transfer the winch onto the retrieval line
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