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BlackSmith
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Kinda makes sense to me.
PCTREE
Treehouser
I just don't get it?? so they are trying to come up with some complicated system to track everybody's millage and then adjust the values to how clean your vehicle runs, doesn't taxing the fuel pretty much do all of that without any intrusion into anybodies privacy??
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It seems wise that the more you use the system, the more you should pay.
Dunno how they can regulate it...
Dunno how they can regulate it...
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Right on, Paul.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
My father in law has to pay mileage as well as a high fuel tax. He is not too fond of the system.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
"pay mileage as well as a high fuel tax"
DING DING DING, Tell Jimster what's he's won Don...
Paul gets extra bonus points for "intrusion" and "privacy".
DING DING DING, Tell Jimster what's he's won Don...
Paul gets extra bonus points for "intrusion" and "privacy".
squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
And Butch? Whuttah ya thinking?
I'm not for the mileage tax. Enough frigging waves and sensors and satellites and crap floating around already. I don't want my ride lojacked so I can be sent a invoice. Umm no thanks.
I'm not for the mileage tax. Enough frigging waves and sensors and satellites and crap floating around already. I don't want my ride lojacked so I can be sent a invoice. Umm no thanks.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
I'd bet only 1/4 of what they collect now goes towards roads and bridges. Where did that trillion in stimulus money go, you know, shovel ready jobs and all that..?
Steve Mack
Life Member.
They did something like that in London. London congestion charge. Worked pretty well to keep people out of the city, except the ones that could afford it. Talk here a couple of years ago of doing it in Sydney.
If you've got a motorway tag they could do it here easy enough.
I cancelled mine, not much chance of me using a tollway these days.
If you've got a motorway tag they could do it here easy enough.
I cancelled mine, not much chance of me using a tollway these days.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Our toll freeways were going to be free after so many years. They lied. Some concrete tunnel ceilings collapsed and a number of people died in a terrible way. Amazing they found the money to inspect and repair, all the time up to then skirting responsibility and public trust.
squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
In BC we had a toll highway(toll to cover the 'costs') that to our governments credit they did remove the toll finally. Now it's free! I guess.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/us/florida-lighthouse-cuban-migrants-court-ruling/index.html
Amazing. The Cubans are coming more often now, because relations are thawing? When tensions were high we were more lenient, now that we are friends we might send them back to their homes. Amazing.
The Cuban paradise/experiment seems to still be failing.
Amazing. The Cubans are coming more often now, because relations are thawing? When tensions were high we were more lenient, now that we are friends we might send them back to their homes. Amazing.
The Cuban paradise/experiment seems to still be failing.
Mick!
TreeHouser
I guess that offering all those concessions was a way of encouraging people to flee to "freedom" plus a slap in the face for the Castro régime.
Seems logical rather than amazing Jim.
Seems logical rather than amazing Jim.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
I just find it interesting that they are worried that the fun times will now end. Might be sent back regardless. Seems the people need us to be enemies. We are buddies now, so fack off!
Why on earth would anyone want to escape the paradise of Cuba?
Why on earth would anyone want to escape the paradise of Cuba?
Mick!
TreeHouser
I think you're overthinking it.
I've been to Cuba, interesting place, but you can see why people risk a lot to leave.
I've been to Cuba, interesting place, but you can see why people risk a lot to leave.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
It was kind of tongue in cheek Mick.
How is everyone feeling across the pond? Seems the markets are rebounding a bit. Did that bit of news quell any "sky is falling" feelings, at least a little?
How is everyone feeling across the pond? Seems the markets are rebounding a bit. Did that bit of news quell any "sky is falling" feelings, at least a little?
BlackSmith
Uncivil
Why anybody would leave Cuba to come here is beyond me...
Mick!
TreeHouser
Yes, calming down a bit, people lost their tits for a bit when it actually happened. The Remainers want another referendum (not going to happen) the brexiteers want to leave this afternoon (not going to happen)
The young blame the old, saying that their future is ruined because of bigoted older people, conveniently forgetting youth unemployment in Spain and Greece is 40%.
People are marching to protest about democracy, saying thick people shouldn't be allowed to have a say.
The two main parties have leadership battles in full swing.
Scotland is trying to secede, but Spain is blocking an easy joining of the EU for them to prevent Catalonia trying something similar.
All good fun.
And to answer your question, the market rebound has stopped a certain amount of panic.
The young blame the old, saying that their future is ruined because of bigoted older people, conveniently forgetting youth unemployment in Spain and Greece is 40%.
People are marching to protest about democracy, saying thick people shouldn't be allowed to have a say.
The two main parties have leadership battles in full swing.
Scotland is trying to secede, but Spain is blocking an easy joining of the EU for them to prevent Catalonia trying something similar.
All good fun.
And to answer your question, the market rebound has stopped a certain amount of panic.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
I read some twitter comments from the young and celebrities. They were pissed that they lost. Saying it was not fair.
Thats the trouble with voting.
A miscarriage of democracy, unless they had won.
The rhetoric from the EU must be getting old by now. It seems leaders like Merkel are acting tough, but must be worried if not scared shitless.
Interesting about the unemployment figures and Spain.
I was wondering about Scotland. What possible argument could London use to convince them to stay, while not sounding hypocritical?
I would assume that there is a mutual need for Scotland to remain part of the UK, but who needs who more? Some Canadians were pro Quebexit (I just made up a neat word!) but it would seem that Canada needs Quebec. Their Olympics would suck without them!
Thats the trouble with voting.
A miscarriage of democracy, unless they had won.
The rhetoric from the EU must be getting old by now. It seems leaders like Merkel are acting tough, but must be worried if not scared shitless.
Interesting about the unemployment figures and Spain.
I was wondering about Scotland. What possible argument could London use to convince them to stay, while not sounding hypocritical?
I would assume that there is a mutual need for Scotland to remain part of the UK, but who needs who more? Some Canadians were pro Quebexit (I just made up a neat word!) but it would seem that Canada needs Quebec. Their Olympics would suck without them!
Mick!
TreeHouser
As for Scotland, they voted to stay in a referendum two years ago, that, plus the fact that the EU won't countenance accepting them in the short term should buy five years.
By then the situation may have changed, there's only 5.25 million in Scotland, things can change fast in such a small political fishpond.
We're all learning new things about democracy over here, some of it unpleasant, like you say, it's great till you lose.
The other European leaders (with the exception of Merkel who's been conciliatory) have been bullish, but not batshit about it.
I think it will be, as a political commentator said, not as good as some hoped, but not as bad as some feared.
By then the situation may have changed, there's only 5.25 million in Scotland, things can change fast in such a small political fishpond.
We're all learning new things about democracy over here, some of it unpleasant, like you say, it's great till you lose.
The other European leaders (with the exception of Merkel who's been conciliatory) have been bullish, but not batshit about it.
I think it will be, as a political commentator said, not as good as some hoped, but not as bad as some feared.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
Cool. Thanks for the explanation Mick.
One thing, I was really disappointed by the campaigning that was done by our government. Especially when Obama said that the UK would be at the back of the line in trade talks with us. Maybe it was just political bullshit.....
I say bring on the talks, lets trade some shit!
One thing, I was really disappointed by the campaigning that was done by our government. Especially when Obama said that the UK would be at the back of the line in trade talks with us. Maybe it was just political bullshit.....
I say bring on the talks, lets trade some shit!
Mick!
TreeHouser
It went down very badly here, counterproductive even. People reacted badly to foreign leaders sticking their noses in.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
Some of that has emboldened the Trump movement as well.
Honestly, if the world does not want Trump, they should stop trying to be so clever on the internet about him. You never get in between an Indian couple throwing punches. They will both turn on you.
Does the EU now need to try and make an example of the UK? Make the thought of leaving so unpleasant that no one would dare dream of it?
Heck, something like that might galvanize the Brits even more.
Interesting times indeed.
Honestly, if the world does not want Trump, they should stop trying to be so clever on the internet about him. You never get in between an Indian couple throwing punches. They will both turn on you.
Does the EU now need to try and make an example of the UK? Make the thought of leaving so unpleasant that no one would dare dream of it?
Heck, something like that might galvanize the Brits even more.
Interesting times indeed.
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