HUNTING 2017
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BlackSmith
Uncivil
The east coast yotes are 1/3 wolf from what I gather hence their size and attitude.
Mick!
TreeHouser
I read somewhere that the surplus of coyotes was due to the lack of wolves.
Read an article about deer over population in parks a bit ago with Valley Forge way up there. Looked it up:
“The current phase of the plan (sharpshooting, plus capture and euthanasia if necessary), will maintain deer density at the initial goal of 31 to 35 deer per square mile, in contrast to the 2009 density of 241 deer per square mile.”
Personally don’t know enough about coyote biology/ecology, but the population of deer and increase in Lymes is no good. That’s why I can hunt September to December. Can’t wait
“The current phase of the plan (sharpshooting, plus capture and euthanasia if necessary), will maintain deer density at the initial goal of 31 to 35 deer per square mile, in contrast to the 2009 density of 241 deer per square mile.”
Personally don’t know enough about coyote biology/ecology, but the population of deer and increase in Lymes is no good. That’s why I can hunt September to December. Can’t wait
Just join a looting club in a Democrat city...get free prizes AND get shot!
treetx
Traveler extraordinaire
I love wildlife, sheep and goats, not so much. I don't mess with coyotes. One of my gifts is being able to call them with nothing but my lips.
Not to say I haven't shot one. I just don't care to. I'd rather see them. There is one near my house that may go soon. He is almost hairless and has appeared without fear twice now around 3pm and just stared at me - not long enough for me to get armed.
Having said all that, I live in an area that was sheep and goat country for a century so coyote populations are low. I've been to parts of Texas where they are high. It gets old. I understand. My dad and his buddies use dogs to hunt them. Those dogs tear them apart...
Not to say I haven't shot one. I just don't care to. I'd rather see them. There is one near my house that may go soon. He is almost hairless and has appeared without fear twice now around 3pm and just stared at me - not long enough for me to get armed.
Having said all that, I live in an area that was sheep and goat country for a century so coyote populations are low. I've been to parts of Texas where they are high. It gets old. I understand. My dad and his buddies use dogs to hunt them. Those dogs tear them apart...
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Without live stock , i prefer to just watch them as well. But.......
My cousin had one as a pet in Kansas. Eventually got shot by a farmer nearby. Guess he got into the chickens. Cool dog though. Id personally like a fox. But chickens and rabbits and all that.
My cousin had one as a pet in Kansas. Eventually got shot by a farmer nearby. Guess he got into the chickens. Cool dog though. Id personally like a fox. But chickens and rabbits and all that.
I do “expanded archery” which is Sep 12 to Dec 12. Mostly southern coastal Maine and around denser populated (deer and people) areas.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Guy we just did a prune for had me stage the brush within range of his front porch and yard. Deer love Black oak and mistletoe.
If he sees one out the living room window or garage, he'll have a reasonable shot with cover.
If he sees one out the living room window or garage, he'll have a reasonable shot with cover.
Ed L
Treehouser
This guy has been passing thru for a couple weeks now....one of the cameras is 30 yards from my stand.
Ed
Ed
Yeah buddy. Missed a small buck a couple days ago, thankfully a complete miss. He jumped the string and I was aiming dead center, rookie mistake. What is a common weight around you Ed? Largest I shot here was 180lb 10pt, most closer to 120-140.
Ed L
Treehouser
Our deer are the same size as yours, a 3 1/2 yo buck will go 180 or a little more.
Ed
Ed
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
Dressed??
Thats a nice deer.
Thats a nice deer.
Headed out for first day of gun season, good cold snap and 18 with windchill. They should be moving well, haven’t scouted at all with work and family but setting up in a sweet spot from last year. Bundling the frig up, I don’t have a stitch of fat on me so union suit and insulated coveralls it is
Good luck. I have the same problem with staying warm.
For me, nothing beats an outerwear, arctic rated 'onesie' with a fur lined hood.
kevin bingham
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my dads friend who is a rancher, in his holistic management org. has a great presentation about jow he discovered that he could shoot coyotes endlessly and another would just pop up. so he stopped and he ended up with one coyote family who with the help of the ranch dog became respectful of the "rules" and also kept all other coyotes out. He ended up having much less problems. there is some science that backs this up as well. killing a coyote is kind of like topping a tree, 6 more low quality loner coyotes will immediately fill the void. what is preferable is to have one family structure that keeps the population stable based on territory. noone has ever succeeded killing the coyotes out
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Armed with new research, ranchers rethink depredation - NM Political Report
Rangeland management of the 20th century was dominated by killing anything and everything that threatened livestock. Predators, and especially wolves, were characterized as both nuisance and threat to ranchers and hunters alike for most of the last century. As the nature writer Aldo Leopold once...
nmpoliticalreport.com
my dads friend is not in this article but its basically the same idea
Yup, plenty of research to backup that observation. So much smarter to live with a trained coyote family as they will aggressive protect their hunting area from other predators.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
Its a bit of a myth....but has some validity too.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Sooooooo I guess all three packs hunting my livestock should be left to sort out who gets to eat baby animals....... Um no
The key phrase is 'trained' to keep away. That is not an easy task when talking about coyotes.
extension.oregonstate.edu
Using coyotes to protect livestock. Wait. What?
Protecting livestock by using one predator to repel another has given rise to an apparent oxymoron: guard coyote. But research has documented that when predators are eliminated, livestock losses can increase.
