SeanKroll
Treehouser
What have you heard from them about their reasoning for the clearing?
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SeanKroll
Treehouser
Wildfire concerns?
Burnham
Woods walker
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If so, their actions are senseless. The property dimensions, house location, remaining trees and veg, adjoining timberlands all make what they have done useless so far as defensible space goes.
I don't think they are that clueless. They are moving from a rural property that was very close to burning in the 2020 fires that had M and me evac to our friends' home for more than a week. These people are smart, and experienced with wildfire.
Something else is at play here, my gut tells me. I'm sure we will find out in due course. It's not my way to interrogate new neighbors as to their intentions right out of the box. We need to get to know them a bit more.
I don't think they are that clueless. They are moving from a rural property that was very close to burning in the 2020 fires that had M and me evac to our friends' home for more than a week. These people are smart, and experienced with wildfire.
Something else is at play here, my gut tells me. I'm sure we will find out in due course. It's not my way to interrogate new neighbors as to their intentions right out of the box. We need to get to know them a bit more.
Burnham
Woods walker
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Recent interactions make it seem like a probable plan is a Xmas tree plantation. Very common here in Clackamas County...one of the most prolific producers of Xmas trees in the world.
That's better than an ATV track, by a large amount. But not without possible negative consequences for us, being so close. Pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers...generally in large amounts, and often applied aerially.
It can be noisy for fairly short periods of time, as all that farming work, as well as pruning and shaping goes on. Harvest about every 6-8 years can be a busy time of intense activity, including helicopter yarding, for maybe a month.
But we shall survive, I reckon
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That's better than an ATV track, by a large amount. But not without possible negative consequences for us, being so close. Pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers...generally in large amounts, and often applied aerially.
It can be noisy for fairly short periods of time, as all that farming work, as well as pruning and shaping goes on. Harvest about every 6-8 years can be a busy time of intense activity, including helicopter yarding, for maybe a month.
But we shall survive, I reckon
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flushcut
TreeHouser
Well it’s not a race track so you have that going for you. Besides you could use a little helli action in your retirement. Liven things up a bit in da hood.
Mick!
TreeHouser
I’d say that’s a result. Compared to your worst case scénario.
flushcut
TreeHouser
Come on, no Phish or Greatful Dead playing 24/7, maybe a drum circle going in the background, the thick overwhelming pungent odor of patchouly filling the air.
Kaveman
Treehouser
David, your problem with your pot head neighbors is the fact that you live on a postage stamp worth of property and can smell what everyone is making for dinner. Ya gots no elbow room.
Burnham, at least it seems your new neighbors have some consideration, and that's something to be grateful for.
Recently some new, younger folks moved in next to Rob. There's almost 100yrd of separation between the houses, so their youthful parties aren't to terrible. When they first moved in, every time I started my dirt bike, someone over there would start an obnoxious two stroke. Every time I got back from a ride, they'd start the two smoke again, and start ripping wheelies and such on the blind hill in front of the house. Not the kinda person I want to ride with, ever. Took them over a month to knock it off, and now, they've cut me off and played stupid games on the road while I'm riding, twice. I'm willing to forgive all that, but their taste in music is absolutely unforgivable, they listen to that country rap, an abomination born from the tainted womb of the worst forms of music. I swear, it's what Satan listens to, on the loudspeakers of hell. These are people whom I do not want to meet or interact with. Luckily, they stay on their side of the fence, so I reckon they're good neighbors.
I have three modes with neighbors. 1, complete ignorance, I know nothing, and do not care to learn. 2, quiet friendship, the best kind of neighbors, rare, but always friendly interaction, freely trading favors. 3, FEUD! this is war, there is no surrender, no retreat, no quarter, no mercy. Shove a live racoon through the doggie door at 3 am kinda feud. Flatten tires by removing and replacing valve cores, and hide raw chicken in the body panels kinda feud. Or my personal favorite, TP the big tree in front of the house, immediately before a light rainstorm, that was epic!
Basically, my philosophy is "Be nice, or I won't."
Stephen has fine neighbors, a veritable crowd of good folk, several of whom I've had the pleasure of both meeting and working for. It's a lovely little community, really, so I always try to be on my best behavior, which is likely sub par, as an uncivilized neanderthal.
Burnham, at least it seems your new neighbors have some consideration, and that's something to be grateful for.
Recently some new, younger folks moved in next to Rob. There's almost 100yrd of separation between the houses, so their youthful parties aren't to terrible. When they first moved in, every time I started my dirt bike, someone over there would start an obnoxious two stroke. Every time I got back from a ride, they'd start the two smoke again, and start ripping wheelies and such on the blind hill in front of the house. Not the kinda person I want to ride with, ever. Took them over a month to knock it off, and now, they've cut me off and played stupid games on the road while I'm riding, twice. I'm willing to forgive all that, but their taste in music is absolutely unforgivable, they listen to that country rap, an abomination born from the tainted womb of the worst forms of music. I swear, it's what Satan listens to, on the loudspeakers of hell. These are people whom I do not want to meet or interact with. Luckily, they stay on their side of the fence, so I reckon they're good neighbors.
I have three modes with neighbors. 1, complete ignorance, I know nothing, and do not care to learn. 2, quiet friendship, the best kind of neighbors, rare, but always friendly interaction, freely trading favors. 3, FEUD! this is war, there is no surrender, no retreat, no quarter, no mercy. Shove a live racoon through the doggie door at 3 am kinda feud. Flatten tires by removing and replacing valve cores, and hide raw chicken in the body panels kinda feud. Or my personal favorite, TP the big tree in front of the house, immediately before a light rainstorm, that was epic!
Basically, my philosophy is "Be nice, or I won't."
Stephen has fine neighbors, a veritable crowd of good folk, several of whom I've had the pleasure of both meeting and working for. It's a lovely little community, really, so I always try to be on my best behavior, which is likely sub par, as an uncivilized neanderthal.
biggun
Monkey for Hire
I really don’t care what my neighbours do. After all it is their land and property so they can do as they please. I also expect the same courtesy as I give them.
I can think of worse neighbours than potheads.
What was the problem ? The smell or just them in general?
flushcut
TreeHouser
It’s the drum circle. Lol
I mostly agree. It’s a free country as long as you’re not stepping on anyone’s toes.
The problem was like kaveman says, tiny yards and it was constant and the air always moves from W to E. I had some employees come work on my gate and they said they would not be able to pass a drug test after. We’d have parties with little kids and they’d smoke us out. By constant I mean no more than 30 mins to an hour without them smoking a bong or bowl, whatever. 24/7. Couldn’t sit outside when the weather was nice or work in my little shop with the door open for air. We were smoked out of our yard.
Before that the young guys there would party until 5am all days of the week, rattling our bedroom windows.
Dave Shepard
Square peg, round world.
I don't care if others smoke, but I have an issue with the smell. When the plants start doing their thing this time if year, it's instant headache for me. Also, when guys are smoking at work, their clothes and backpacks reek of it, and I don't think they know how bad it is. And it's really bad.
stikine
Treehouser
Dude, not a problem up here, neighbors are great.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Ditto
SeanKroll
Treehouser
They are acclimated to the smell, and may not smell well, I bet.
Mick!
TreeHouser
Burnham
Woods walker
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At this point the full 15 or so acres along our southern flank and on eastward beyond our southeast corner are completely cleared of all trees. There were about a dozen piles of trees, limbs and assorted slash scattered across the open ground, some of which are larger than our house. So far, he has burned a couple of the piles and partially burned a couple more. When the burning was active, the smoke and fallout was heavy, but fairly short-lived. Most of the ground except for the piles has been disced with a large ag tractor and disc rig he got from somewhere.
It does sound like the plan is for planting Christmas trees...one of the kidlets confirmed that in conversation over the fence as she and her sibs walked up their driveway from the school bus.
We can see a few small house lights up there after dark; that's a new bother but pretty minor overall. Can easily see garage, barn, and house in daytime if you want to look; that's new for sure. He's left a few mature trees around the house and barn, so far.
Definitely we are getting more sun through our edge trees than has been the norm for this time of year. That's not all bad now, but as I noted before, come warm weather it may be less pleasant.
That's the current situation. Not as bad as it might be, in general.
It does sound like the plan is for planting Christmas trees...one of the kidlets confirmed that in conversation over the fence as she and her sibs walked up their driveway from the school bus.
We can see a few small house lights up there after dark; that's a new bother but pretty minor overall. Can easily see garage, barn, and house in daytime if you want to look; that's new for sure. He's left a few mature trees around the house and barn, so far.
Definitely we are getting more sun through our edge trees than has been the norm for this time of year. That's not all bad now, but as I noted before, come warm weather it may be less pleasant.
That's the current situation. Not as bad as it might be, in general.
Cobleskill
Treehouser
My neighbor to the north a bit over 1/4 mile has a horse barn in line with my house. They put up a led outside light that was on all the time that looked liked the rising sun to me. I like to look at the night sky, northern lights, comets, etc.
I finally found the right time to mention it to the mom. She said she hated it also and maybe a motion light. Great, I said. It was on and off too much. I adjusted it. Better. Now they put in super bright led lights down the aisle of the barn. Probably if they cleaned the jelly jar fixtures and put led lights in them they would have been sufficient. They have a led tube light on every truss rafter. When the doors are open it is quite annoying. Guess I should be glad they are over 1/4 mile away. I would like to put a hood on the motion lights so I don't get the full effect. Have to ask.
I finally found the right time to mention it to the mom. She said she hated it also and maybe a motion light. Great, I said. It was on and off too much. I adjusted it. Better. Now they put in super bright led lights down the aisle of the barn. Probably if they cleaned the jelly jar fixtures and put led lights in them they would have been sufficient. They have a led tube light on every truss rafter. When the doors are open it is quite annoying. Guess I should be glad they are over 1/4 mile away. I would like to put a hood on the motion lights so I don't get the full effect. Have to ask.
Nutball
TreeHouser
Light pollution sucks. The houses around mine always have the outside lights on, so you can't see anything at night due to the glare. Diffusers are a lost technology, but they are somewhat making a slow comeback.
Dave Shepard
Square peg, round world.
I have motion lights on my garage. They are set to 1 minute, just enough time to get in the house. Of course, I'm not sure my neighbor can see them.
Nutball
TreeHouser
One of mine is set for 1min, just long enough to be in the middle of something "quick" for the light to go out.
