Tree felling vids

[davidwyby]

I think some slow-motion video is in order.

I'd aim for thin/ very thin hinges when having multiple, especially the rearmost hinge(s).


If you weld up a log holder, you could do some short sections of log with a slow pull from an MA system or winch.

Just so happens I recently built a giant Christmas tree stand for practicing Humboldts while cutting up palm.

The one effect that I won’t have is weight of the tree crushing the hinge.



The front of the hinge has to compress and the rear stretch. Can’t do much to make the rear stretch, so making room for compression if probably the way. Wood is less likely to break if it can deform into a kerf or something I think.

 

[flushcut]

Who needed a shed anyway?! That should buff right out, maybe a little hammer and dolly work some bondo, good as new.

 

[davidwyby]

Who needed a shed anyway?! That should buff right out, maybe a little hammer and dolly work some bondo, good as new.

I told him it was probably gonna get whacked, he said it was time to go anyway.

 

[davidwyby]

Getting pretty interesting

 

[lxskllr]

Dunno if I buy his conclusion. He says flexibility's caused by moisture content. There shouldn't be any moisture content in a tool handle.

 

[davidwyby]

I haven’t made it to the end yet…I’m thinking more felling wise…and eucalyptus

 

[cory]

Ol Mr. Hotsaws is at it again. He takes his time and makes things perfect. Musta been a helluva tree that they didn't trust the excavator alone to push it

 

[flushcut]

That 2100 just burbles away like a big bore tank. Old school muscle saw!!

 

[cory]

they certainly are heavy suckers

 

[Burnham]

Like the 084. It's not bad once you have it settled into some big wood...but moving it from the shed to the truck and back again is onerous, especially with one of our stupid long west coast bar/chain combos mounted. 5 or 6 feet of bar and chain comes fairly close to the weight of the powerhead alone.

 

[davidwyby]

 

[davidwyby]

Pretty good sizdutch

 

[cory]

wow, mr 460 above is quite the interesting character- massively into axes, timber cutting, and ultramarathons. Thx for posting!

 

[cory]

He had another potentially interesting video- seemed to be a ''progressive' soft dutchman with a sizwell" but the vid was super long and didn't show the finish or the stump

The progressive part is that the various kerf cuts of the soft dutchman were progressively deeper rather than all the same depth

 

[Burnham]

I have to admit to a bit of reserve on many of these...well, in the past I have labeled them "gimmick" cuts.

Many of them strike me rather like some of the more complicated climbing system "improvements" I have seen in vids and pics over these last several years as the mechanical and hybrid SRT devices became available.

That being...too complicated and involved to justify the degree of advantage they provide over more straightforward, simpler approaches .

Old guy syndrome rears its "stuck in the mud" head .

 

[cory]

Arguably it very hard to tell on most videos how effective many cuts are because you more or less have to be there in person to witness the lean and all the factors involved.

Plus, I'd tend to say that for any of the tricky cuts, very strong-fibered species are crucial to results.

 

[Burnham]

Well said, Cory. Just so. Compromised wood fiber, or more brittle species...need not even try.

 

[pete mctree]

The longer I cut timber, the more I try and refine the basics - they deal with 99% Of all the problems I encounter.

 

[cory]

That rings true with me. Plus, I think the concept holds true in many other occupations and activities too.

 

[lxskllr]

There's something to be said for doing it just cause you can. Makes the day more fun when you do stuff out of the ordinary.

 

[Burnham]

Not so much in my world.

Murphyesque, even . That way might just get you killed.

But to each his own. There are some mighty talented cutters out there that could run circles around me.

 

[flushcut]

I like the basics myself. Rarely do I get to fell trees whole but when it happens I’m setting lines and pulling to the lay with wedges as back up. Because the tree HAS to go that way and no other.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

A lot of what you pull up on the interwebs these days is pretty much going to be FAFO for someone.
Until you've mastered the basics, got some time felling, have no targets to worry about and you are only risking your self and some of your kit, play away.
Me, I prefer hazard mitigation. Least risk possible.
I just had a meeting with a client and her son. Picking up a deposit for a crane job. Canyon live oak with heavy crown and trunk leaning completely over a water tank and pump house structure.
Son asked if I thought there was any way I could just drop the tree off the structure.
I replied, "I probably could. In fact I can try that for you if you are willing to sign off any liability I might have in crushing things under the tree. Just the price of a 3000 gallon tank is more than the crane and crew are going to cost. Let alone the building." He conceded even though he originally thought the crane added too much cost.
Could I do it. Good hinge wood. Guy the tree back, face the tree 90 out and pull it to the desired lay. Most likely it would split the diffy at 45*. And miss the targets. But if something goes wrong......

 

[Kaveman]

Seen that tree. Climb it and play with rigging for two days as you piece it out, or crane it in two hours or less.

Felling it anywhere but directly onto the structures is simply toying with risk.

 

[davidwyby]

He has some info that can com in useful. I probably picked a poor example - swinging a leaner, something not done in residential.

But he also has a bag of other tricks for making stuff hold longer to avoid sailing down off down the hill, or the top breaking out, etc. Interesting stuff. Different goals there.