The Official Work Pictures Thread

[squisher]

Cool pics Rich. Looks like a hell of a hiab. And that tractor setup looks sweet too.

 

[pantheraba]

I'll use two bull ropes before I'll use a spiderleg.

Edit.....(and this is why I sometimes multipost in sequence...frikkin' Squisher already butted in while I was crafting this eloquent reply/bolstering of the boss.)

ESTIMATING the COG is the thing...my estimates suck sometimes when I have tried spider legs.

Here is how Alex and I handled a large limb in a tight space yesterday...two lines as the boss decrees (OK, suggests in his omnipotent wisdom....)

2nd line is there but doesn't show attachment which was near base cut at spar. Groundman (only have one when I am lucky) has to work like two monkeys to lower sometimes...when I can I take over the close line and handle it.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Nice job Gary

 

[Stumpshot]

The spider leg isn't to be avoided, it's very useful when you have no room under the limb (aka close target) nor you can't lift it (other limbs over it). Tip drop or butt drop can be both forbidden. The limb has to stay as is (with its initial angle) during the lowering. You do that by tying 2 or 3 legs of rope, before and after the center of gravity. By fine tuning this setup, and properly guessing where is the COG, the limb barely move when you make the cut. More easy to say than to do, but interesting.

I guess we don't even think to do spider legs, since our GRCS lets us crank the limb to have pre-tension so it doesn't budge when cut, or crank further to lift it up to clear higher limbs.

 

[treebilly]

Spider legs have a place in day to day work. Not every day unless one uses a crane. I’ll use a spider leg a few times a month maybe. Give me a crane and it’s almost every pick till the spar

 

[Grendel]

Nice one. No one in the UP has pools. . . like no one. haha

Trimmed and deadwooded a number of lakeside trees, three oaks and a stately White Pine. No cleanup, perfect night.

 

[treebilly]

Nice work all.
I apologize for my lack of pics but I?ve been kinda burnt out on it. Took a vacation and now I?m being slammed with way to dead removals. A lot of cut and pray and cut and toss shit. Hopefully that?s over tomorrow and I can actually cut something that resembles wood. Been putting stabilizing lines in and removing two outta three to yank over what you could call a spar. Relatively easy bucket work but why would anyone let trees stand dead that long with targets around?.

 

[Nutball]

We gotta finish this one tomorrow. I hope it is smooth going. I get to break out the 42" bar for the second time, I just hope there's no metal or rocks in the tree. I modified my oiler too to keep up with the big bar.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

We just got back from a little beach get away and had to clean up this mess. Monterrey Pine he had us trim out dead from before. Bad head lean so this was pretty predictable.
Fodder.

 

[SeanKroll]

Regarding any advanced tricks, good experiences come from good judgment; good judgment comes from bad experiences.

Also, you get better, faster, and more efficient, by starting being lesser, slower and inefficient. The hardest time is the first time. Nobody's every done it many times, until they have done their first time.

 

[Burnham]

Regarding the oftentimes challenge of presetting spiderlegs to the COG.

I have at times put a micro-pulley or a carabiner at the apex of the two legged spider rather than a fixed point to the lifting and lowering line, but intentionally placing the spiders way in from the tips, putting COG too close to the butt to expect balance, so the butt has a strong tendency to rise....and put a tag line on the butt end of the piece. Then the ground crew can manage balance without any guesswork on my part.

Really long and heavy open grown Douglas fir limbs...that's when I used this system.

A side benefit of this technique is that the groundies can swing the piece left or right as needed to clear obstructions of any sort.

As I think on it, you could do the same with a single attachment point...I haven't seen the need to do so in my experience, but the logic is the same.

 

[Nutball]

Anyone know if a 134DL chain will fit a 42" bar? A new 135DL already has the tensioner half out, and it isn't long before the end is reached.

 

[flushcut]

Edit.....(and this is why I sometimes multipost in sequence...frikkin' Squisher already butted in while I was crafting this eloquent reply/bolstering of the boss.)

ESTIMATING the COG is the thing...my estimates suck sometimes when I have tried spider legs.

Here is how Alex and I handled a large limb in a tight space yesterday...two lines as the boss decrees (OK, suggests in his omnipotent wisdom....)

2nd line is there but doesn't show attachment which was near base cut at spar. Groundman (only have one when I am lucky) has to work like two monkeys to lower sometimes...when I can I take over the close line and handle it.

On small limbs like that when using a biner take a full wrap around the stem it helps lessen the side loading on the gate.

 

[Merle Nelson]

We gotta finish this one tomorrow. I hope it is smooth going. I get to break out the 42" bar for the second time, I just hope there's no metal or rocks in the tree. I modified my oiler too to keep up with the big bar.

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How did you modify your oiler?

 

[SeanKroll]

Anyone know if a 134DL chain will fit a 42" bar? A new 135DL already has the tensioner half out, and it isn't long before the end is reached.

Used to do projects on the desert with the National Park Service cutting and spraying invasive trees.
Their 28" chains would quickly wear/ stretch beyond the tensioner because of sand. When they became too long, they took out a link.


Wait until it's a problem to pop a link, IMO.

 

[pantheraba]

Good tip there....thanks on the extra wrap.

 

[biggun]

A couple more pictures from the work in the west coast.

Last 2 trees out of the six we removed. Raining in and off all day.

Both crowns down to sticks by 11.30 and then some stem work.

Rich

 

[MasterBlaster]

Why the undercut in the last lift???

 

[Mick!]

Lovely work Rich.

Re. The spider leg debate...

I haven’t done it in years, reason being by the time you’ve rigged it all up, got the balance wrong and generally arsed about you could have rigged it out in smaller pieces.

 

[MasterBlaster]

+10.

A time waster 95% of the time.

Just gimme another rope.

 

[pantheraba]

by the time you’ve rigged it all up, got the balance wrong and generally arsed about you could have rigged it out in smaller pieces.

That's a hilarious description with a lot of truth in it.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Nice work Rich. I need more crane work!

 

[biggun]

Why the undercut in the last lift???

It is just a release cut on the stem. Almost impossible to get the saw trapped. The Kiwi's call it a crane cut. It works really well.

 

[biggun]

So that's what the pic of the odd hole in the roof was about...

Yes I must admit it looked a bit odd.

One of the ground staff sent me a few pictures from Monday. You can see what it was all about.

 

[pantheraba]

I have taken trees out of decks...and seen gutters routed around trees. But NEVER a tree with the roof modified to preserve it. Gotta be more out there but that's radically different!

Thanks for the picture.