The New Tribe Nikosi

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This is the new saddle just released by New Tribe. It is called the Nikosi. I got a chance to try it out and am in love. It's quite comfy, fairly lightweight, allows superb freedom of movement, and should be fairly durable. Anyway, just a little gear porn for those of you living with OCGD.
 

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Sean, as I look at the pics I find myself thinking that the bridge appears to be arranged such that your hitch would end up riding higher that I like. How'd it seem to you? Dave seems to think it's OK, but I kind of have my doubts.
 
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Dang, I missed that. That's what I get for not checking in more.
 
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Burnham - I thought the same when I first saw it, but I didn't notice it when I climbed in it. It probably does set the hitch a few inches farther away, but not enough to create a problem for me anyway.
 
Burnham, can you not just adjust it closer with the adjusters that join the bridge to the legstraps?
 
Burnham, can you not just adjust it closer with the adjusters that join the bridge to the legstraps?

Maybe so, Cary. Be something to try, for sure.

I wonder how you'd hang hooked into the lower dee?

I think you'd hang WAY over backwards, Butch. There would be a huge amount of slack between that D and the waistbelt.
 
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Yep, it's not intended to connect to the lower d ring. The climbing line is supposed to clip to the larger upper d ring.
 
I think I'd be putting a new, shorter bridge on to replace the top one, running it through the bottom dee, and dispensing with the strap and top dee altogether. Perhaps its just the way it looks in the pics, but that top dee looks way too high for my liking.
 
I don't think you'd get much side to side movement if you did that, as you'd have to really shorten the upper bridge up tight to keep the COG anywhere close to correct. I bet you'd still lean too far back, even then.

I have the advantage of having ridden a New Tribe saddle for many a year, so I can perhaps visualize some of the issues with modifying this model.
 
I'm wondering about cutting the lower D out and replacing it with a delta link...if the delta was shorter top to bottom it might lower the upper d enough to help. Though both Dave and Sean say it works fine, and there is the ability to shorten the leg support straps and lower the bridge by doing so.
 
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When I used to climb in my old Buckingham versatile, which really did put the knot farther away, I remember it was difficult to come back from a limb walk because my blake's hitch and the dangling running end of my line were out of my reach. I would sometimes have to reach out with my handsaw to grab the running end of the line so I could pull on it as I came back to the trunk in order to keep my weight in the line. When I used the Nikosi recently on a maple prune, I did several very long limb walks and did not notice this to be a problem. The knot was always within comfortable reach and was never up in my face. But that may also be because I now use a VT, which is held closer to the saddle than a Blake's hitch anyway. I think that you guys might be seeing something in the picture that isn't a concern in reality. Not sure though.
 
The New Tribe saddles have always been a little on the goofy side, I guess. wiley p thought the same as you John, but having climbed in it he says it works well.
 
When I used to climb in my old Buckingham versatile, which really did put the knot farther away, I remember it was difficult to come back from a limb walk because my blake's hitch and the dangling running end of my line were out of my reach. I would sometimes have to reach out with my handsaw to grab the running end of the line so I could pull on it as I came back to the trunk in order to keep my weight in the line. When I used the Nikosi recently on a maple prune, I did several very long limb walks and did not notice this to be a problem. The knot was always within comfortable reach and was never up in my face. But that may also be because I now use a VT, which is held closer to the saddle than a Blake's hitch anyway. I think that you guys might be seeing something in the picture that isn't a concern in reality. Not sure though.

I think you're right Sean; I'm sure adjusting the riser straps between the bridge and the leg straps will fix it easily.
 
I like New Tribe. I still have my original New Tribe work saddle and it looks brand new even though its over 10 years old. They are made from the most durable materials and are very comfy. Im sure its plenty comfy, but it still looks strange. Id bet there will be a 2nd generation down the line and the bridge over bridge thing will be much more streamlined. The only difference between it and the original NT is the addition of the upper bridge and the leg straps terminating to the bridge rings.
 
I like teh fact that there are alot of attachment points for long, mechanical decents where you want that back up hitch
 
It is both DdRT and SRT right outta' the bag I'm guessing... you could clip the croll into the leg bridge ring, and the hand ascender strap into the bridge ring :) I would love to try one out just to see how good a mix it is between a working/hanging saddle.

The long leg straps make me wonder if it would be feasible for footlocking easily? and how would they be for moving in tight quarters? would they get hung up on stuff? My Sequoias are very close fitting and don't get hung -up on anything, a feature I really like :)
 
New Tribes have always been less streamlined than some of the lightweight modern saddles, especially the leg pads/straps. This one will be no different in that respect. I suppose there always are some tradeoffs...big comfort vs. minimal bulk, in this case.
 
Burnham, I've had ADHD my whole life, so hanging for 20-30 minutes or more un-tethered in a tree is out of my cranial-league...;) If I'm going to be waiting that long, I'll be lanyarded in, resting on hooks or a limb.

So the Petzl's are okay in that sense, plus I can hang for 10 minutes plus and they don't bother me too much.
 
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