Benjo75
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Just looking at the growth rings. Around here they're usually wider on the South side and the heart is closer to the North.
Still getting up there :)
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pantheraba
More biners!!!
I went ahead and got them out....here's what I use now...I use a locking biner (usually a Jake) in the smaller web loop.
Mick!
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Nice wood flooring btw.
Burnham
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In point of fact, it's no secret...I've posted about that method of mine in the past. Some pics here...
Friction Savers???
If you have a spliced eye, the retrieval ball that is sold (some would say overpriced) for it, works great. Never stuck after that. Well worth $4. The screw link is more multi-purpose, and probably cheaper, though.
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when negative blocking down wood sometimes I will use a DRT system with a adjustable crotch around the trunk rather than a SRT system. the biggest problem depending on the run, is rope twist. Has anybody tried using the Cocoon attached to the prusik to see if this might solve the issue ? Besides...
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SeanKroll
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Buckingham FSs come with multiple wraps as a prussic, not as a girth-hitch. I wouldn't use it that way.Gary shows his with a single prusik wrap...mine uses a double, a more normal configuration for a prusik. I won't call his wrong...but I wouldn't do it that way myself.
SeanKroll
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what was this tip?
This!
SeanKroll
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Thanks.
I have had that problem with the knot jamming. I find that moving far back from the tree, to create a more horizontal line-angle also helps retrieval.
I have had that problem with the knot jamming. I find that moving far back from the tree, to create a more horizontal line-angle also helps retrieval.
pantheraba
More biners!!!
I don't use it that way...I use it with a prussic. I agree. I had that girth hitched then because I was simply keeping all the parts together at the time....I had "decommissioned" the large one due to a ring recall extant at the time.
I love that trick with the pear, but i used a mallion instead for side/ unknown loading. My problem then became since i was too cheap/ stubborn for a retrieval ball, my knot had to be up from the splice, and the splice wouldn't come through sometimes. So once i replaced my climbline (errant spur damage), no more splice
Burnham
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Kyle, I never bought one of the retrieval balls either. I bought tarp bungees...same ball. Then replaced the bungee cord with throw line. Cheap. Just make sure the size is correct. Gave quite a few away to my climbing buddies and students. Good karma right there .
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Burnham
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The smoothest arrangement for clean and easy pull through the big ring and solid hang and retrieve in the small ring is a spliced eye with a retrieval ball girth hitched in that eye. Everything else is lessor at getting the job done.
Kyle...side note...lose the figure 8, use a simple overhand knot for that function. Smaller, smoother, yet still big enough to do the job. But still not as efficient at pulling through a big end FS ring compared to a retrieval ball.
And I have to tell you Pantheraba/Gary, old friend. The only way you were leaving your FS aloft after pulling your climb line through both rings is that you mixed up the big ring, your Jake biner, and the small ring. I know without being there that you ran your descent rope through the big ring and the jake rather than through either one or the other and then the small ring.
That's because I've done it too, my good friend. It's easy to do. Pull your climb line from the wrong side even if you rigged it right aloft and you have completely screwed the pooch yet again. I have made other rigging mistakes that resulted with similar hangups, so don't feel rained on.
But it is not the fault of the FS...it's our operator error, almost every time.
Kyle...side note...lose the figure 8, use a simple overhand knot for that function. Smaller, smoother, yet still big enough to do the job. But still not as efficient at pulling through a big end FS ring compared to a retrieval ball
.And I have to tell you Pantheraba/Gary, old friend. The only way you were leaving your FS aloft after pulling your climb line through both rings is that you mixed up the big ring, your Jake biner, and the small ring. I know without being there that you ran your descent rope through the big ring and the jake rather than through either one or the other and then the small ring.
That's because I've done it too, my good friend. It's easy to do. Pull your climb line from the wrong side even if you rigged it right aloft and you have completely screwed the pooch yet again. I have made other rigging mistakes that resulted with similar hangups, so don't feel rained on
. But it is not the fault of the FS...it's our operator error, almost every time.
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I'm also a fan of the tarp bungee balls... even if a Guinness draught can ball, works as well. The tarp ball (red one) has a diameter of 27mm and the 'Guinness' (white), 30mm.Kyle, I never bought one of the retrieval balls either. I bought tarp bungees...same ball. Then replaced the bungee cord with throw line. Cheap. Just make sure the size is correct. Gave quite a few away to my climbing buddies and students. Good karma right there
Keeper Black/Blue Bungee Ball Cord 12 in. L X 0.374 in. 8 pk - Ace Hardware
The Keeper 12" Ball Bungee Cord is constructed with a durable outer jacket to withstand UV rays and weather damage making it perfect for indoor and outdoor applications. Inside, premium rubber ensures optimal performance and elasticity for long-lasting repeated use. A plastic toggle ball at one...
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The smoothest arrangement for clean and easy pull through the big ring and solid hang and retrieve in the small ring is a spliced eye with a retrieval ball girth hitched in that eye. Everything else is lessor at getting the job done.
Kyle...side note...loose the figure 8, use a simple overhand knot for that function. Smaller, smoother, yet still big enough to do the job. But still not as efficient at pulling through a big end FS ring compared to a retrieval ball
And I have to tell you Pantheraba/Gary, old friend. The only way you were leaving your FS aloft after pulling your climb line through both rings is that you mixed up the big ring, your Jake biner, and the small ring. I know without being there that you ran your descent rope through the big ring and the jake rather than through either one or the other and then the small ring.
That's because I've done it too, my good friend. It's easy to do. Pull your climb line from the wrong side even if you rigged it right aloft and you have completely screwed the pooch yet again. I have made other rigging mistakes that resulted with similar hangups, so don't feel rained on
But it is not the fault of the FS...it's our operator error, almost every time.
It only ever used to happen on a Friday afternoon. After a long week having to climb back up to retrieve the incorrectly installed FS is the last thing you want.
I haven’t had anymore of those Friday afternoon since I went full time SRT. I have had similar Friday afternoon but for different reasons.
Again, usually down to user error, ie my error! 🤪
I had other inducements in mind, Stig. As in..."I dunno, my old friend. That tree is mighty close to my house; I'm not sure a dumb logger from Denmark could handle it properly..."
You see the drift.
I would have totally fallen for that
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