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I don't have anyone on ignore. I have ten kids; I can ignore people at will, without pushing a button. It's a gift.
Is everyone that doesn't believe in a "useful" vaccine a DF in your eyes? When it comes time for boosters, are procrastinators considered DF's until they get it? Is the guy living off grid in the bush a DF if he doesn't get vaccinated? Are fat people and smokers DF's too? Their "poor" choices potentially land them in icu beds.
DF outta here.
My thoughts exactly, though there’s no need to call folks Diminutive Farts.... It’s no illusion that Covid is a thing. What is suspect is that nowhere near as many have died from it as predicted. And there’s no way of knowing whether they’d have lived if they’d had alternative treatments or not. I know only three or four who’ve died from it, while I know dozens who’ve recovered with no lasting effects. And the militant attitude of folks against those who aren’t drooling for the jab doesn’t help much.
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If you mention any choice in the matter you might be a DF. Jeff Foxworthy
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Every case of covid death that I know of has been in a hospital after intubation. No one has died at home. The logical conclusion is that hospitals are killing people.
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Key Studies in Public Health – Topic – COVID19
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FALL SEMESTER 2021
This class meets live, online, once per week. Time and Day TBD.
Instructors: James Lyons-Weiler, PhD, Dr. Henele Ealy
In this class, instructor-led discussions of readings of key studies and reports on COVID-19 published at the beginning of the pandemic will be discussed. Studies and reports will be critically examined by all class participants for the level-of-evidence and quality-of-evidence.
Students will work in teams to read, evaluate and summarize the study or reports and provide the rest of the class with typed notes and summaries describing the strengths and weakness of the study and report. Students should prepare powerpoint summaries of their assigned readings.
Class participants are encouraged to use the findings of the review groups in their own publication outlets. All class participants will agree to reference their sources as
Course Participants, 2021. Key Studies in Public Health, Reviews & Summaries. Fall Term, IPAK-EDU.org
Readings Class
- The SARS-CoV-2 Virus (Discovery, origins, description)
- COVID19 as a Disease – First study, first US confirmation study
- MIS-C – First papers
- Pathogenic Priming and ADE – Lyons-Weiler, Harvard Study, ADE
- Diagnosis & RT-PCR – Lee, Basile
- Diagnosis & Reporting – Ealy et al.
- Transmission - Asymp. Trans studies, Marine Study
- Mitigation, Tracking
- Lockdowns
- Supplements & Herbal Remedies - Vitamin D
- Treatment 1 – Ivermectin – Meta-analysis
- Treatment 2 – Hydroxychloroquine - Henry Ford Study, Retracted Study
- Treatment 3 – Fluvoxamine
- Treatment 4 – Other (Nitric Oxide) – Phase 1,2,3 studies
- Treatment – Rational Workflows (McCollough, Marik)
- Vaccines Phase 1, 2/3 Studies – Moderna
- Vaccines Phase 1, 2/3 Studies – Pfizer
- Vaccines - J&J, GSK, Novavax
- Vaccines Post-EUA Studies – Jessica Rose
- Pathophysiology of the Spike Protein
- Variants – Test escape, Current State of Knowledge, Delta, Beta, etc.
- Natural Immunity vs. Vaccination immunity
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proves the point
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Well, if you have to ask... and I have to splain it to ya. 
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I suppose you might be a redneck if you don't know what a DF is.
Well...I could guess what it means.
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Name calling and and foul language does not set a good objective in any discussion.
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It's actually a sign of weakness as is the mud throwing employed by stig, Rico and others. Rico just took a bad landing jumping off a 4-foot stump and broke his knee and tweaked his ankle. Rico and Stig can deal with their karma. I'll deal with mine.
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Sydney, population 5.3 million. 4 people died in 3 weeks.
What are the odds? I guess masks must be working.
What are the odds? I guess masks must be working.
Abbot and Costello's "who's been vaccinated?"
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’”
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’”
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OPEN LETTER TO THE CDC ON REINFECTION RATES IN VACCINATED AND UNVACCINATED
09.01.2021 jameslyonsweiler Cures One comment
From: James Lyons-Weiler <
Date: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:39 PM
Subject: Cycle threshold distributions
To: <qds1@cdc.gov>
Cc: <>, <poland.gregory@mayo.edu>
Dear Dr. Campbell,
I am cc’ing Dr. Poland as he recently uncritically interpreted your report as showing that the risk of re-infection is higher in the unvaccinated than in the vaccinated in a YouTube presentation.
I read w/interest your report
Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19... - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
As you are corresponding author, I am directing my questions to you.
1. Among those partly vaccinated, vaccinated and unvaccinated, what were the qPCR Ct threshold distributions for each group?
2. If your team used the CDC’s guidelines for reporting case with (Ct<28 cycles + hospitalized or dead for vaccinated, but Ct value up to 40 or even higher for the unvaccinated), how can we compare rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths in so-called vaccinated “cases” and so-called unvaccinated “cases”?
3. Are the groups studied confounded in any way?
4. Were the NAAT test rates vs. antigen test rates the same in both groups?
5. Per your report, the “vaccinated” were considered vaccinated on 14 or after, per CDC guidelines. This seems unusual; if the vaccine harms the immune system for a period of time and makes people more susceptible to infection, it would appear within the first two weeks, given what we have seen in animal studies.
6. If people are not vaccinated until 14 days after receipt of the vaccine, shouldn’t people have to wait 14 days to receive their vaccine card if herd immunity is the goal?
7. Your particular group criterion definition would skew the data badly in favor of finding an increased rate of re-infection in the previously infected or unvaccinated, making causal attribution to the vaccine and your recommendation that all persons should be vaccinated impossible to support with your data.
8. Also, there is ambiguity in the description of the time periods for the two groups. For the controls, were the data time-matched? Trends in prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 , public health measures, and seasonality of respiratory viruses change over time. Using a different (albeit overlapping) time period could bias the results in terms of group rates of infection.
9. Were “vaccinated” considered vaccinated past 90 days, or were they switched to “unvaccinated” after 90 days per CDC guidelines?
10. Was this report peer-reviewed by scientists who do not work with or for the CDC?
11. Given the above, do you and your co-authors stand by your conclusions?
The professional favor of a reply is requested.
Sincerely,
James Lyons-Weiler, PhD–
James Lyons-Weiler, PhD
President, Director & CEO
Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge
Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy and the Law
Pittsburgh, PA
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From: James Lyons-Weiler <
Date: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:39 PM
Subject: Cycle threshold distributions
To: <qds1@cdc.gov>
Cc: <>, <poland.gregory@mayo.edu>
Dear Dr. Campbell,
I am cc’ing Dr. Poland as he recently uncritically interpreted your report as showing that the risk of re-infection is higher in the unvaccinated than in the vaccinated in a YouTube presentation.
I read w/interest your report
Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19... - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
As you are corresponding author, I am directing my questions to you.
1. Among those partly vaccinated, vaccinated and unvaccinated, what were the qPCR Ct threshold distributions for each group?
2. If your team used the CDC’s guidelines for reporting case with (Ct<28 cycles + hospitalized or dead for vaccinated, but Ct value up to 40 or even higher for the unvaccinated), how can we compare rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths in so-called vaccinated “cases” and so-called unvaccinated “cases”?
3. Are the groups studied confounded in any way?
4. Were the NAAT test rates vs. antigen test rates the same in both groups?
5. Per your report, the “vaccinated” were considered vaccinated on 14 or after, per CDC guidelines. This seems unusual; if the vaccine harms the immune system for a period of time and makes people more susceptible to infection, it would appear within the first two weeks, given what we have seen in animal studies.
6. If people are not vaccinated until 14 days after receipt of the vaccine, shouldn’t people have to wait 14 days to receive their vaccine card if herd immunity is the goal?
7. Your particular group criterion definition would skew the data badly in favor of finding an increased rate of re-infection in the previously infected or unvaccinated, making causal attribution to the vaccine and your recommendation that all persons should be vaccinated impossible to support with your data.
8. Also, there is ambiguity in the description of the time periods for the two groups. For the controls, were the data time-matched? Trends in prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 , public health measures, and seasonality of respiratory viruses change over time. Using a different (albeit overlapping) time period could bias the results in terms of group rates of infection.
9. Were “vaccinated” considered vaccinated past 90 days, or were they switched to “unvaccinated” after 90 days per CDC guidelines?
10. Was this report peer-reviewed by scientists who do not work with or for the CDC?
11. Given the above, do you and your co-authors stand by your conclusions?
The professional favor of a reply is requested.
Sincerely,
James Lyons-Weiler, PhD–
James Lyons-Weiler, PhD
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Bless you James for having the courage and wisdom to hold these medical “masters” feet to the fire. We are under attack, and without full disclosure/informed consent are marching forward like lemmings towards disaster.
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