New Choking Crane Sling Stays on Hook

[flashover604]

Butch, to your bottom gif.

"Hot DIGGITY dog!"

 

[Jomo]

Only misunderstanding is you're still thinking you can have a discussion with him. You have to agree or he'll keep telling you he's great.

Says the "hero" emerging from his dormancy....

Jomo

 

[MasterBlaster]

Heroes need a break.

 

[sotc]

Sometimes I forget to not say anything at all. Grams would get me by the ear if she was still around.

 

[woodworkingboy]

Crane operator must not be that cushy, a lot of them complain about having neck pain. Probably the unnatural position combined with the high level of concentration, particularly in tree work.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Always looking up, usually into the sun...

Nah!

 

[flashover604]

Some of the crane cabs now rotate backwards so that the operator is essentially reclined and looking straight ahead while watching the load above them.

 

[RegC]

Nick, I think you should abolish that idea and delete the video before someone tries to mimic it. Splice in a piece of steel to replace that stopper knot, and you might have something. But as is, it looks like a bad example of rigging to be putting out there. You're gaiNing nothing in safety, and it's but a couple seconds faster than a shackle.

 

[BlackSmith]

In this day and age of lawyers and lawsuits you could be held a percentage of liability.

 

[Levi]

After watching the video, I had no idea that people did tree removals like that. As far as taking a sling off of the ball, choking it, then re-attaching. I have only ever used 2 steel cables with shackle/clip. Like this:http://www.uscargocontrol.com/Lifting-Slings/Sliding-Choker-Wire-Rope-Slings-Domestic

I never saw a problem with that setup, other then the fact it could be hard to balance certain pics at certain times. But, I removed a couple dozen trees like that with no issues and saw many more done the same way while I worked the ground.

 

[DMc]

... Splice in a piece of steel to replace that stopper knot,....

So are you thinking that his sling is not strong enough or that it is functionality less secure?

 

[RegC]

I just think it looks bad, Dave....that big stopper knot. I could see someone trying to copy it, and having a mishap.

I like the no-knot/Crosby hook thing....but this looks shit, and doesn't inspire confidence. No offense Nick. It's not solving anything.

 

[DMc]

Well, you could be right, Reg, I have no idea if Nicks sling will work but the soft shackle has a history of use going back hundreds of years. They have successful held some really big shit.

 

[MasterBlaster]

 

[RegC]

Probably it does work Dave, same as tying a knot. But, if its hundreds of years old, and nothing new, then it's perhaps with good reason why I've never seen it used by crane companies. Ive done my share of that. I just don't think it's a step forward by any means.

 

[kevin bingham]

the straps that most crane operators use dont inspire much confidence either. one of my crane guys sists i use his straps, which suck. I dont see why this is a bad idea. definitly dont understand why he should delete the video. And i most certainly will go out and try to copy it!

 

[kevin bingham]

http://www.sailmagazine.com/gear/sail-rope-and-rigging/on-deck-soft-shackles/

 

[kevin bingham]

http://www.balancecommunity.com/slack-science/comparison-soft-shackle-methods/

 

[BlackSmith]

the straps that most crane operators use dont inspire much confidence either. one of my crane guys sists i use his straps, which suck. I dont see why this is a bad idea. definitly dont understand why he should delete the video. And i most certainly will go out and try to copy it!

Why would the CO want to use your straps and take a chance of hurting someone? All our rigging is proof tested and certified, we either roll with them or we don't roll.

 

[RegC]

the straps that most crane operators use dont inspire much confidence either. one of my crane guys sists i use his straps, which suck. I dont see why this is a bad idea. definitly dont understand why he should delete the video. And i most certainly will go out and try to copy it!

I like Nick. I helped him out once. I will again if need be. That's why I've posted, otherwise I'd have said nothing. Having done more crane work than most, I see that thing as a time bomb. Take it or it leave it.

 

[Jomo]

I'd delete the vid because it's disingenuous, outrageously so.

Who the fug takes takes the choker off the hook each pick anyway? Only a complete idiot who has no idea what a clevis is.

It's a BS sales technique IMO.

Jomo

 

[MasterBlaster]

You know what they say about opinions.

 

[BlackSmith]

As far as being a great idea I have to agree and it probably has its place in industry, just not mine.

 

[kevin bingham]

outrageously dangerous? what do you forsee happening?

 

[Mick!]

I think Jomo was referring to the disingenuousness of the vid as being outrageous rather than danger.


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