Magic Cut for vertical spars, etc

Bucket job for the wood. Zero damage. Very fussy customers! People are assholes in NY, Cheap assholoes too. That tree was way underpriced. On the other hand todays job weas sweet, made a load of profit, tips, and happy customer. Cant win em all.
 
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Alternamats at the base, it seems, not a beat area of dirt.


How much more did it cost (would you guess) to rig that wood rather than bomb it?

NYers, eh? Slate roof people?

Seems strange is all. Seems like the stumps would be ground in front of a fancy house.


Why not Magic Cut them, Benn?
 
Not much more time to set up a block and rope Sean... When I got further down we used the tyres to fell bits onto, then dropped the spar...

Robs still about Butch, not sure why he doesnt come on as much...
 
Actually, the forum's software deleted him when he didn't log in for a certain time. I didn't know it was doing that and I've stopped it. He'll need to reregister.
 
I should say that I use humboldts with this cut, typically. Longer logs will want to hop the spar a little with a conventional.

By all means, practice on the ground first.

By the time you are down close to the ground with a spar, you sometimes don't need a hinge. Hinges are super important for whole trees, clearly.


I'll try to get better pics at work. That was in my yard with firewood logs.
 
Hey @mistahbenn, did you post that video to YouTube? Content link on FB has expired. You've raised my curiosity on this now that Sean has bumped this thread.

Our climber is a snapcut specialist... likes the physical handling of the piece to put some English on it so it lands as intended. Freefalling is generally not an option in a manicured yard or one with targets in any proximity. Most limbs get caught and handled so they land properly & directed. Sean, is it best with conifers as opposed to hardwoods?
 
Its a self-releasing snap cut. The snipe gives it room to tip, and aim. You can shoot well with vertical chunks in any tree I've tried it on.
 
Here's my version:

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I would steer anyone away from this magic cut TBH. Doesnt take any more time to leave a thin strip of hinge for security, with no more cutting involved. Deep undercut. If you mis judge a lean or length with the MC, it could snap and just fall off in any direction. With a hinge you can at least pop a wedge in and still get it to go where you've aimed it. Its also good for as bigger logs as you have room to land.
 
I don't use it much Reg, as I don't care for breathing all the dust . I'd rather use a block and negative rig or bomb with a pull line on most trees, going big...

I do however think the cut shown is quick and safe when used appropriately... I haven't run into any of your concerns, as if any of those issues are present you just go to a hinge...

and contrary to many opinions voiced on this thread anytime time you are undermining the COG there is no chance of saw snatch... anyone that thinks different could use a lesson on the subject!
 
The MC looks like a silly waste of time to me. It adds uncertainty (especially climbing) and uses more gas/time with no redeeming quality.
 
Good for that Butch, but Daniel might need an even sillier cut for municipal work cause he does this MC-thingy pretty fluidly.
 
Its actually been so long since I used it that I forgot to cut a narrow notch.. you don't need 45 degrees with the cut I showed...

Silly waste of time eh???

Rather than get into an online pissing match, perhaps a race is in order...

stock saws and new stock chain .. I run a 461, 24" bar ...

looking for a straight stick 18-20" diameter oak.. 4' lengths .. 3-4 cuts from the bucket...

and to make it a little more exciting, we (all) could put a little wager on it...
 
4' lengths are pretty short, imo.

Millable log-lengths/ easier to load lengths, faster to get back on the ground lengths are preferable to me.
 
I agree


My skids dear loader can lift 1500 pounds fairly easily

But just one of the reasons I rarely use this cut

If I was gonna take an 8' piece from the bucket truck I certainly would make sure it was a hinge involved as per reg's recommendation
 
I would mostly want to cut longer pieces As long as you're not too heavy for the skid steer loader it's also making handling the logs easier as we're running into issues with places to dump mix loads of chips and logs

If the wood is in log length it's much easier for the log trucks that service me to pick up
 
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