Jeffrey Pine Down
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SeanKroll
Treehouser
Nice one!
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TreeHouser
Did you dump the whole thing or piece out the top? Good size! 50” or so?
Burnham
Woods walker
That's a biggie. Any significant lean to deal with?
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TreeHouser
Yeah 125’ covers some ground! lol I wish they grew like that here.
Altissimus
TreeHouser
Yep , nice pull tree
Kaveman
Treehouser
Yum yum, she's thick!
Was the pull line strictly nessacary or were you hedging your bets?
Not to take anything from you, knowing for a fact it's going to fall THERE means a lot more than "I'm pretty sure it's gonna lay out this way"
Was the pull line strictly nessacary or were you hedging your bets?
Not to take anything from you, knowing for a fact it's going to fall THERE means a lot more than "I'm pretty sure it's gonna lay out this way"
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TreeHouser
Half inch insurance for the win! 🏆
SeanKroll
Treehouser
I used to say that I was hedging my bets, but really was stacking the odds in my favor, more accurately. For example, wedging and pulling are stacking the odds in the same direction for one, desired outcome.
Hedging your bet is to protect yourself against loss by supporting more than one possible result or both sides in a competition: They're hedging their bets and keeping up contacts with both companies.
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- #15
Once I’d dropped it with a 660, I used my new 500i to buck it into 16 foot sections.
My buddy and his three young sons were so impressed by the 500i’s performance, they rushed out and bought one the very next day.
My buddy and his three young sons were so impressed by the 500i’s performance, they rushed out and bought one the very next day.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
nice kill
Burnham
Woods walker
You know of course that was not a "guide line". That was a "guide hinge" with a pull line to the lay 
. Where it ended up was not due to the rope.
. Where it ended up was not due to the rope.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Don't get many like that anymore.
Burnham
Woods walker
I think it fell to the lay as directed by your hinge, which was faced at the pulley. And that's a prudent location for you to have placed the redirect pulley.
But if you'd set that pull off to an angle from the direction dictated by the hinge, the tree still would have gone to that same lay.
Pull ropes do not control the felling direction, the hinge does.
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- #21
I respectively disagree Burnham ole buddy.
Had I not put the pull line on at
90 feet the second shed would’ve been in serious jeopardy had the lean overpowered the hinge wood.
It had an eastward lean that the winch line over came.
I put just enough serious pull on it to avoid a barber chair affect.
Had I not put the pull line on at
90 feet the second shed would’ve been in serious jeopardy had the lean overpowered the hinge wood.
It had an eastward lean that the winch line over came.
I put just enough serious pull on it to avoid a barber chair affect.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Jomo's back 
Burnham
Woods walker
So you gave it a serious pull to avoid a barberchair? How does that work?
And I submit to you that, especially a tree of that size, if the lean had "overpowered" the hinge wood (by which I guess you mean caused the hinge to tear out early rather than function as planned), then a pull line direct to the gunned lay would have done nothing to change the direction of fall.
Not. One. Thing.
And I submit to you that, especially a tree of that size, if the lean had "overpowered" the hinge wood (by which I guess you mean caused the hinge to tear out early rather than function as planned), then a pull line direct to the gunned lay would have done nothing to change the direction of fall.
Not. One. Thing.
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Perhaps my euc driven career has led me to not trusting hingewood integrity in a leaning situation.
i have found that conifer or softwood hinges are far more tenacious than hardwood hinges:
indeed in smaller pines I have found that triangular hinges can result in a slow fall that once limbed results in a horizontal log well off the ground, begging to be cut into 16 inch rounds,
So I’m inferring that conifers have superior hinge integrity than hardwoods like eucs, making me somewhat trigger shy, and far more cautious.
All I’m sayin is lean can be over come by pull far easier in softwoods than hardwoods.
The tree being half dead rather than totally dead factored into the equation.
i have found that conifer or softwood hinges are far more tenacious than hardwood hinges:
indeed in smaller pines I have found that triangular hinges can result in a slow fall that once limbed results in a horizontal log well off the ground, begging to be cut into 16 inch rounds,
So I’m inferring that conifers have superior hinge integrity than hardwoods like eucs, making me somewhat trigger shy, and far more cautious.
All I’m sayin is lean can be over come by pull far easier in softwoods than hardwoods.
The tree being half dead rather than totally dead factored into the equation.
