I can not find it, let me give you the short story of the master, I was in NY city in Chinatown, I was looking to by a clever I think that the correct spelling, I mean the butcher ax, I was looking true chinatown, when I walk into this Chinese store that specialized in restaurant utensil, and I found it. Let make it short, I did the frozen chicken test. The Evil Master split the chicken in half in one cut, sence that day the Evil master has remain in his box. I can not find it, it is lable Do not friggin' touch. I can find it, will look for it, my wife may have throw it away.