BlackSmith
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It's only better if the railroad is owned by Buffett...
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FireFighterZero
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He owns this one!
Rotten bastid!
Rotten bastid!
kevin bingham
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by that measure, Us soldiers kicking down doors in Iraq and Afghanistan are no longer representative of a sovereign nation because they are on private property? Part of sovereignty means that you have the right to defend yourself and confront threats to your existence wherever they may be by whatever means you have available. That is regardless of your thoughts of oil by rail or pipeline.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
I hope the North Dakota winter gets them.
Easily manipulated fools.
It's all about money.
Easily manipulated fools.
It's all about money.
Totally different deal and governing laws Kevin. But as I said, my issue is with their one sided reporting. If they can't honestly tell both sides they have an agenda, and are not to be trusted when they report the next incident.
I agree it is about money Jim. It does seem though that there would be a better way to run a pipeline that under a lake. We have them in the Great Lakes, as well as Canada Drilling under the lakes, which should all never have happened.
I agree it is about money Jim. It does seem though that there would be a better way to run a pipeline that under a lake. We have them in the Great Lakes, as well as Canada Drilling under the lakes, which should all never have happened.
FireFighterZero
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There is a pipeline that goes under the Yellowstone River outside of Billings. It sprung a leak and spilled quite a bit into the river.
It was a big wreck, but was cleaned up. Of course, the pipeline had been exposed from years of erosion, and was not repaired. They just waited till if failed.
I think you could say that about a lot of our infrastructure. I remember being really, really pissed off when that bridge collapsed in MI or MN, I cant remember which. All the while we were building BS projects in Afghanistan and Iraq. For some reason it took American contractors 50 times the money to build stuff than it took the locals.
From what I heard, the original Tribal council made a deal and was happy. The next council wanted more money.....thats where the "sacred lands" deal came about.
It just takes the right amount of money and "sacred lands" become much less so. Not only a Native deal though.
It was a big wreck, but was cleaned up. Of course, the pipeline had been exposed from years of erosion, and was not repaired. They just waited till if failed.
I think you could say that about a lot of our infrastructure. I remember being really, really pissed off when that bridge collapsed in MI or MN, I cant remember which. All the while we were building BS projects in Afghanistan and Iraq. For some reason it took American contractors 50 times the money to build stuff than it took the locals.
From what I heard, the original Tribal council made a deal and was happy. The next council wanted more money.....thats where the "sacred lands" deal came about.
It just takes the right amount of money and "sacred lands" become much less so. Not only a Native deal though.
kevin bingham
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i agree with you on reporting. i dont like lopsided reporting either. My issue was with the idea that Indian sovereignty is subjective. Which it is not, although it is treated that way when convenient.
FireFighterZero
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Even the Indians know thats not true, or at least they dont want it to be.
I agree Kevin. Some of the problems arise when tribal Citizens,being basically Federal subjects (dependents), pick and choose what laws apply to them.
When individuals or groups are off the reservation, having the opinion that a State has no authority over them seems to be their opinion because they choose not to "recognise" that particular law as it isn't to their advantage. To the contrary, the State has every right to defend its citizenry, etc. from unlawful acts by those individuals or groups.
In the current pipeline situation, the protesters went beyond peaceful when they blocked construction, intimidated workers, sabotaged and defaced equipment, vehicles, and machinery. In the long run their early tactics were met in kind by the State authorities.
When individuals or groups are off the reservation, having the opinion that a State has no authority over them seems to be their opinion because they choose not to "recognise" that particular law as it isn't to their advantage. To the contrary, the State has every right to defend its citizenry, etc. from unlawful acts by those individuals or groups.
In the current pipeline situation, the protesters went beyond peaceful when they blocked construction, intimidated workers, sabotaged and defaced equipment, vehicles, and machinery. In the long run their early tactics were met in kind by the State authorities.
Raj
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https://www.ecao.org/news.asp?id=364
Guess our provincial government is trying to reduce the value of a C of Q for the trades. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Many tradesmen don't have a clue anyway. I see tradesmen on facebook all in an uproar, in reality I think it will reduce their wages. IMHO companies are looking to increase profits, since energy is on the rise what's left is the manpower to reduce in cost, so I think they have petitioned the government for this change.
Guess our provincial government is trying to reduce the value of a C of Q for the trades. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Many tradesmen don't have a clue anyway. I see tradesmen on facebook all in an uproar, in reality I think it will reduce their wages. IMHO companies are looking to increase profits, since energy is on the rise what's left is the manpower to reduce in cost, so I think they have petitioned the government for this change.
Corporate answer to pipeline delay.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...istics-Partners-Respond#.WEV4Fmp1TdI.facebook
http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...istics-Partners-Respond#.WEV4Fmp1TdI.facebook
kevin bingham
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of course it is all about the money and of course the money will win. Who are you betting on?
Republicans are kicking but lately getting things done.
MI: House passing Bill to levy heavy fines on individuals in large protests and lower standards on shutting them down.
OH: introduced Bill to stop abortion as soon as heartbeat is detectable.
Feds: House removing "buy american" clause from infrastructure Bill.
Looks like the States are betting big on an extremely conservative court system.
MI: House passing Bill to levy heavy fines on individuals in large protests and lower standards on shutting them down.
OH: introduced Bill to stop abortion as soon as heartbeat is detectable.
Feds: House removing "buy american" clause from infrastructure Bill.
Looks like the States are betting big on an extremely conservative court system.
Limbrat
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Rest in peace John Glenn, astronaut, fighter pilot, first American to orbit the earth. He was one of those men who Tom Wolfe wrote about in his book "The Right Stuff". A great man and a hero for many of us boys who grew up in that era. John Glenn truly had "The Right Stuff".
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/john-glenn/john-glenn.html
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/john-glenn/john-glenn.html
pantheraba
More biners!!!
MasterBlaster
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A true Hero.
BlackSmith
Uncivil
Limbrat
TreeHouser
Triple ouch. I doubt all the king's horses...................
MasterBlaster
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BlackSmith
Uncivil
Yes sir.
MasterBlaster
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Are you a Facebooker?
It might not work for non-FBers...
It might not work for non-FBers...
BlackSmith
Uncivil
I can only read the headlines and not the full articles. No, no facebook for me.
Mick!
TreeHouser
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38273933
Seems like the Ruskies have a pretty good handle on the internet these days.
Seems like the Ruskies have a pretty good handle on the internet these days.
