Good Beers

[sotc]

Budweiser and olives? 2 wrongs don't make a right you know

 

[FJR]

Haha well I guess you would have to like Budweiser and you would have to like green olives to enjoy it. I can't afford the rich mans martini.

 

[Thor's Hammer]

I do some pretty good home brew, mostly from high end kits, but occasionally I'll brew my own wort. Not made a batch for a few years now, as I never seem to find the time.
If I'm in my local pub, there is nothing on this earth to compare to a fresh foaming pint of cellar casked BASS pale ale.

I'm really into some of the Ginger Beers this year. Something about the bite of the ginger really refreshes, and it performs very well as fall down water.

 

[woodworkingboy]

Ed, you don't drink real ale served at room temp? I thought just about everyone did, maybe except the ladies. Perhaps it's gone out of popularity?

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Ed, you don't drink real ale served at room temp? I thought just about everyone did, maybe except the ladies. Perhaps it's gone out of popularity?

Room temp should actually be cellar temp. Most pub rooms are pretty overheated places, especially if you have a roaring fire going in the fireplace. All real ales should be stored in a cool dark place.

 

[woodworkingboy]

I guess the ideal is to bring a cask up from the cellar and drink it quickly. If you could pump up from the cellar would be cool. I don't recall the pubs being cold in the winter.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Do you ever make a bad batch, Ed? Like, maybe in the beginning? Taste like shit and you threw it away?

 

[Cut4fun]

I'll have to dig up some old pics from the pub we hung out in in Diyabaker (city spelled wrong) Turkey. I will go look it up.

Make that Diyarbakir Turkey and room temp Efes bira

 

[Thor's Hammer]

I guess the ideal is to bring a cask up from the cellar and drink it quickly. If you could pump up from the cellar would be cool. I don't recall the pubs being cold in the winter.

Its all pumped from the cask Jay. Those big beer pump handles pull it from the cellar. In ye olden times, they used to full a big jug from the cask in the cellar, and you would dispense your own at the table. A few specialised places will still do that for you.

Do you ever make a bad batch, Ed? Like, maybe in the beginning? Taste like shit and you threw it away?

Yeah, plenty of dodgy brews learning. taste like shit but we'd still drink it...
Unless you get a fly infection in the brew, or havent cleaned the equipment properly, its pretty hard to make an undrinkable beer

 

[woodworkingboy]

Never knew that about pumping up from the cellar. I'm thinking that the 'Cross keys' I frequented maybe didn't have a cellar. I recall the proprietor hefting casks into the bar, thought it was ale, but perhaps another beer.

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Never knew that about pumping up from the cellar. I'm thinking that the 'Cross keys' I frequented maybe didn't have a cellar. I recall the proprietor hefting casks into the bar, thought it was ale, but perhaps another beer.

You are right, a lot of pubs dont have a cellar. Some places would store the cask under the bar. I guess thats where the 'warm beer' thing came from. Its not meant to be warm though.

 

[woodworkingboy]

Even warm, the taste grows on you. Lovely drink. I really disliked it the first time I tried, pretty much only used to lager then. Sure gets you pissed, too.

 

[Al Smith]

Sure gets you pissed, too.

Speaking of which,did you ever notice that most bock beers have picture of a goat on them ? Perhaps a hidden message or truth in advertising.Take your pick .

 

[FJR]

Found this:

Why “bock?”

But, what were they calling this beer? The origin of bock’s name is impossible to prove although some interesting explanations have been floated over the years. Many of them focus on the fact that bock in German also means billygoat. This is why so many bock beer labels feature goats. But where’s the beer-goat connection? One theory suggests that the traditional time to brew bock beer was under the sign of Capricorn, the goat. Another tells an amusing story of a drinking contest between a Bavarian duke and a knight from Brunswick. Each was given a cask of beer from his opponent’s store. After a few drinks the knight found himself on the ground while the Bavarian remained in his seat. The embarrassed knight blamed a goat that had found its way into the courtyard. The Bavarian, who also happened to be a brew master, laughed and told the knight, “The Bock that threw you over was brewed by me.”

 

[woodworkingboy]

It isn't very complimentary to be like a billygoat. They have no scruples.

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Rather be a Goat than a sheeple.

Bock is the term for a strong lager of German origin. Several substyles are based on bock, including maibock or helles bock, a paler, more hopped version generally made for consumption at spring festivals; doppelbock, a stronger and maltier version; and eisbock, a much stronger version made by partially freezing the beer and removing the water ice that forms.
The style known now as bock was a dark, malty, lightly-hopped ale first brewed in the 14th century by German brewers in the Hanseatic town of Einbeck.[2] The style from Einbeck was later adopted by Munich brewers in the 17th century and adapted to the new lager style of brewing. The Bavarians of Munich pronounced "Einbeck" as "ein Bock" ("a billy goat"), and thus the beer became known as "bock". To this day, as a visual pun, a goat often appears on bock labels

 

[Paul B]

re making beer. I have made a few batches at the U-brew place over the years, I think we batted about 75% approval rating, a few stinkers for sure.

 

[MasterBlaster]

taste like shit but we'd still drink it...

 

[woodworkingboy]

It reminds me of the old logging camp joke, where anyone who complains about the food, automatically becomes the next cook. The current cook is fed up with it and serves up a ripe old moose turd he found, and waits for the response which will end his cooking duties. The first guy who tastes it, immediately spits it out violently and loudly shouts , "My God, this tastes like shit!........but it's good!".

 

[MasterBlaster]

 

[Cut4fun]

It is supposed to accentuate the flavor of the beer. Might be best to pour it in a glass and put the orange slice in that .

I ask the guy what blue moon beer he was bringing over, because after going to their site they had a bunch to choose from.

He said Winter Abby Ale that is only made a few months in wintertime. So my question is, do I need oranges for this one too?

Link below to beer forum showing the beer.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/306/63224

 

[FJR]

Sure you could put it in the winter abbey as well.

 

[OTGBOSTON]

It is supposed to accentuate the flavor of the beer.

According to wiki, its just to get attention at the bars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Moon_(beer)

 

[OTGBOSTON]

I'm really into some of the Ginger Beers this year.]

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/pangaea.htm

me too...this one

 

[Tree Reb]

That Dogfish ginger beer looks good, multi national ingredients.

I used to make a good one, Honey & Ginger. I haven't made it for a while, might give it another go now. I found it in this book, made a lot off stuff from it.

That bus driver in England who was into home brew, he said that he could make it out of just about anything, and was going to try out of steak and kidney pie. Must be a Brit thing?

No steak and kidney, but there is a cock [rooster] beer if you aren't feeling too good.