Girth hitch discussion

[rbtree]

good discussion...perhaps..... I agree that the strength loss introduced via a knot, or girth hitched sling is of low concern when there is close to a 20-1 safety margin built in.

Of course, we must always be diligent in limiting our exposure to falls, as tree climbing lines are essentially static...as they stretch under body weight typically only 1-3%, as compared to full dynamic lines stretch of 6-8%...and 50-70% at break, versus much less with our semi-static lines.

 

[rbtree]

Correct, Marc

 

[Burnham]

Great discussion, folks.

 

[Marc-Antoine]

How high above a TIP does a climber on a DRT blakes hitch with girth hitched friction saver on a solid TIP have to go before they will cause damage to the equipment (and themselves) in a fall?

Actually, I can't say.
I'm pretty sure of one thing though : in this configuration, the climber's body will be damaged before his equipment.

 

[bonner1040]

However you calculate it, in whatever type of climbing you do there are always points when you go out on lead. Knowing the situation, yourself, and the limits; then pushing yourself to achieve is what counts.

I have been on the sharp end of rope more than a few times, for work and fun. When you are in that danger zone you have to know when to 'not fall'.

 

[bstewert]

Round turn is retrievable from the ground if set up right

Willie, would you elaborate on what you mean by "set up right?" I have girthed TIPs and redirects on downward sloping branches (like sequoias) to keep them from rolling down. But then I have to go back up and get it.

 

[sotc]

Instead of girth hitching, Lay your rings over the branch, then take one ring around the limb again. Is that what you were asking?

 

[bstewert]

OK, nothing fancy, just an extra turn. Got it. It's been awhile since I've needed to do that.

 

[sotc]

You just need to make sure the big ring is over the top to retrieve it from the ground

 

[bstewert]

Ah-hah! That is the "properly" I was asking about. I don't use ring&ring much. Just often enough to forget how each time.

 

[bonner1040]

Ekka has a video on it

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[sotc]

Probably an angry video of someone doing it wrong too

 

[MasterBlaster]

Hahahaha, ain't that the truth!