Here is a drawing of how we do it, hope you can make sense of it ( and my handwriting)
After doing the undercut, bore in a little less than all the way back in the left side, cut forward, leaving hingewood.
Bore behind hingewood on right side and cut around the tree, the last bit of wood to be cut, will act as backstrap.
Carl we'll never agree on the bar lenght. That is like muslims and christians discussing something, but to me the advantages of a shorter bar are: (beside tradition!!) fewer cutters to file, less drag on the powerhead, consequently being able to use lighter saw.
That means using less oil and gas, and dragging less weight around.
With the amount of bars and chain, I and the guys in my outfit go through in a season, there is money saved in shorter bars being cheaper.
But mostly, it's tradition. The way we have to limb and buck stuff here is simply easier with a short bar.
Don't forget,even though I'm just a dumb European,I have been in the woods in California on several occasions. The way softwood are being limbed there, simply would not wash here, the mills would complain.
Back before the feller bunchers took our place in the foodchain here, when we felled and limbed an ungodly amount of smallish fir and spruce, we needed really fast limbing tecniques to make a living. Small saws with fastmoving chain was the answer.
With a 50 cc saw filed correctly for the job and a 15 inch bar, I can have the limbs off a 90 foot doug fir in about 4 minutes. And I mean, have them off so you could run your bare butt down the log without getting splinters.
Sorry, that's how we used to tell apprentises limbing had to be done. Somehow that bare butt always got in there.
The generation of loggers that were active in the relatively short period here between the chainsaw getting small enough for limbing and the harvesters taking over, grew into being very fast limbers.
Today we hardly log softwoods, but I still show off my limbing tecnique on occasion, to impress the youngsters.
After doing the undercut, bore in a little less than all the way back in the left side, cut forward, leaving hingewood.
Bore behind hingewood on right side and cut around the tree, the last bit of wood to be cut, will act as backstrap.
Carl we'll never agree on the bar lenght. That is like muslims and christians discussing something, but to me the advantages of a shorter bar are: (beside tradition!!) fewer cutters to file, less drag on the powerhead, consequently being able to use lighter saw.
That means using less oil and gas, and dragging less weight around.
With the amount of bars and chain, I and the guys in my outfit go through in a season, there is money saved in shorter bars being cheaper.
But mostly, it's tradition. The way we have to limb and buck stuff here is simply easier with a short bar.
Don't forget,even though I'm just a dumb European,I have been in the woods in California on several occasions. The way softwood are being limbed there, simply would not wash here, the mills would complain.
Back before the feller bunchers took our place in the foodchain here, when we felled and limbed an ungodly amount of smallish fir and spruce, we needed really fast limbing tecniques to make a living. Small saws with fastmoving chain was the answer.
With a 50 cc saw filed correctly for the job and a 15 inch bar, I can have the limbs off a 90 foot doug fir in about 4 minutes. And I mean, have them off so you could run your bare butt down the log without getting splinters.
Sorry, that's how we used to tell apprentises limbing had to be done. Somehow that bare butt always got in there.
The generation of loggers that were active in the relatively short period here between the chainsaw getting small enough for limbing and the harvesters taking over, grew into being very fast limbers.
Today we hardly log softwoods, but I still show off my limbing tecnique on occasion, to impress the youngsters.