Lots of Great Discussion!
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And, important principle, that is seen across all disciplines,
Paradigm Shift: When really the only way to go forward in understanding is to shift whole model, do the exact opposite!
kinda the yin/yang pendulum swinging to the equal/opposite extreme i think.
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Scientific/Medical paradigm shifts very abundant!
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Here walked out of Plato's cave to some extent, and saw different light;
not the way i'd go this path in future,
but still SERIOUS thought provoking and re-aligning mental model to a truer representation on one hand,
but on other hand shows to watch all forces, any can be friend or foe in how applied!