Good find Butch.. We should all take the time to get that one down, even if we only use it very occasionally.. Looks cool for sure.. I AM going to show it to a friend that wants to become a wild land fire fighter/ smoke jumper. He has a great attitude and a lot of athleticism. Says its a very competitive field to get a job in. He's trying to get a gig as a volunteer fire fighter to get some training right now, as he finishes his degree in emergency anagement from Pitt online, and works 30-40 hours for a tree service.