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Frans
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he has to go get them developed...
Just give me a minute, I'm working on it Greg said he mailed it earlier this week. So it should be coming via UPS or FEDEX soon...
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Jamin Mayer
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I'm pulling trees over nearly every job with them. They are very useful.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Oh, don't pull off the fair leads unless it's straight on. The fair leads are guides only.... not for bearing loads
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Frans
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As I was driving up my narrow cliff hanger driveway yesterday, I tussle with 'Buster Brown' (UPS guy). He was coming down and I was coming up w/chipper.
Any how he left a big brown box on the porch.
Major changes are subtle, but profound.
Top fairlead is 5/8" rod stock.
The side fairleads are heat treated for stress relief and the pins are set in such a way so the loads are sheer loads. Which means that they can take an incredible amount of force. They may distend under loads exceeding the WLL.
-Can't stress enough the requirement to always use a guiding block set above the unit.
Someone here mentioned pulling/winching off the side fairleads.
This is not what the unit is designed for, it is dangerous, and is an improper use of the device.
Please don't do that. Use a block set above the device which will guide the load line into the top of the device.
Also anyone owning a GRCS needs to have the DVD titled 'Safety First'.
This DVD explains how to operate the device, how to maintain the device, and explains advanced uses of the device.
The DVD can be gotten from Gerry Baranek by emailing him or going through his web site:
www.atreestory.com
Or contact your vendor for the GRCS and get it from them.
Because of folks using the side fairleads in winching operations, the side fairleads have now been removed in an effort to stop this improper use.
Both sides now have the upgraded pigtails. The pigtails have been oriented on the base plate to better facilitate rapid slack removal, and to ensure that no matter what position the operator is standing in, the rope will be at an optimum (most favorable) position for working.
I will have more to say, and additional pictures, in about a week after using the device on the job.
I also welcome anyone to cross post to other web forums. Or, to ask me anything about it. I will do my best to answer correctly.
Thanks
frans
Any how he left a big brown box on the porch.
Major changes are subtle, but profound.
Top fairlead is 5/8" rod stock.
The side fairleads are heat treated for stress relief and the pins are set in such a way so the loads are sheer loads. Which means that they can take an incredible amount of force. They may distend under loads exceeding the WLL.
-Can't stress enough the requirement to always use a guiding block set above the unit.
Someone here mentioned pulling/winching off the side fairleads.
This is not what the unit is designed for, it is dangerous, and is an improper use of the device.
Please don't do that. Use a block set above the device which will guide the load line into the top of the device.
Also anyone owning a GRCS needs to have the DVD titled 'Safety First'.
This DVD explains how to operate the device, how to maintain the device, and explains advanced uses of the device.
The DVD can be gotten from Gerry Baranek by emailing him or going through his web site:
www.atreestory.com
Or contact your vendor for the GRCS and get it from them.
Because of folks using the side fairleads in winching operations, the side fairleads have now been removed in an effort to stop this improper use.
Both sides now have the upgraded pigtails. The pigtails have been oriented on the base plate to better facilitate rapid slack removal, and to ensure that no matter what position the operator is standing in, the rope will be at an optimum (most favorable) position for working.
I will have more to say, and additional pictures, in about a week after using the device on the job.
I also welcome anyone to cross post to other web forums. Or, to ask me anything about it. I will do my best to answer correctly.
Thanks
frans
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sotc
Dormant hero!!
Ok, the side "fairleads", what were they for? Afairlead is something to guide line into the drum as far as I know
gf beranek
Old Schooler
The winch fair lead. Got to have it.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
The short fair leads are for winching from the side. The pig tail is for directing the tail of the rope, not winching.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
But I think frans said no.....
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Those top fair leads are for directing the line onto the winch. Not for pulling from the side.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
But what about the side ones that are now missing?
lumberjack
Young man on the go
There are short fair leads on the side, which are for pulling from the side.
None of the fairl leads should have much force put against them.
None of the fairl leads should have much force put against them.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
lumberjack
Young man on the go
I have video of the Greg pulling a tree over using the side fairleads.
I've never done it, but it can be done. I set a block above the GRCS and use it.
I've never done it, but it can be done. I set a block above the GRCS and use it.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Haha, Ive done it also. just trying to figure frans out
lumberjack
Young man on the go
I think he's talking about the pig tail.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Not how I read it
lumberjack
Young man on the go
sotc
Dormant hero!!
rumination
Migratory Hippie Arbolist
I've used the side fairleads many a time to pull trees over. If there is any significant sideload at all then I will redirect them with a block (learned that the hard way), but I found those side fairleads very useful just like in the video that Carl linked to. If I buy one of the new designs I will miss those side fairleads.
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Frans
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Jeez willie, don't get your knickers bunched 
Writing things down, as you all know, sometimes does not convey EXACTLY what you mean as things are interpeted differently.
I said 'don't winch OFF the side fairleads.
If the rope is being fed EXACTLY straight INTO the drum. Without ANY side play AT ALL for the ENTIRE OPERATION, then using the fairleads would be fine.
But when does that happen?
The idea with the side and top fairleads, is to not put undue stress on them. But using a block set above the grcs allows the operator to pull from any angle any time any day. And do it safely.
Hope this is clear.
Willie, do you have the latest GRCS video titled: 'Safety First' which goes into this? It is explained by people far smarter than me.
Writing things down, as you all know, sometimes does not convey EXACTLY what you mean as things are interpeted differently.
I said 'don't winch OFF the side fairleads.
If the rope is being fed EXACTLY straight INTO the drum. Without ANY side play AT ALL for the ENTIRE OPERATION, then using the fairleads would be fine.
But when does that happen?
The idea with the side and top fairleads, is to not put undue stress on them. But using a block set above the grcs allows the operator to pull from any angle any time any day. And do it safely.
Hope this is clear.
Willie, do you have the latest GRCS video titled: 'Safety First' which goes into this? It is explained by people far smarter than me.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Not bunched, just trying to figure why they were there if not to guide ropes in. So it's ok to side load the winch, with the new frame you will just have to line things up perfectly or redirect with a block. Got it
I have 2 GRCS vids, but couldn't tell you which ones I have
I have 2 GRCS vids, but couldn't tell you which ones I have
