New Square Chain Grinder

[lxskllr]

Was checking out stuff at baileys, and saw this...

T&S Professional Chain Grinder (Square Chisel) with Stand

The CZ223 is the latest professional chain grinder from T&S. This grinder sharpens square chisel chain, which is the fastest cutting chainsaw chain made today. The CZ223 is designed from the ground up to set a new standard in sharpening square chisel chain. The CZ223 uses a standard 8” x 1” x...

www.baileysonline.com

Not something I need, and it's *spendy*, but it might be of interest to the right person.

 

[Burnham]

Spendy is an accurate description.

 

[Kaveman]

Boss has a square grinder, I'll get to playing with it soon enough. I wanna try square ground on a climbing saw, because I'm dumb and also, bull pine.

 

[lxskllr]

For awhile I was seriously considering trying to learn to square file, but I cut a lot of dirty stuff, and I also have issues with sticking the bar in the dirt. The work and frustration potential got me to quit the idea. Almost 100% semichisel chain, and a round file works well enough. I wouldn't mind trying someone else's square ground climbing saw though. No dirt to stick it in, and it might hotrod something like a 2511. Do they make files for lp chain?

 

[SeanKroll]

Are you using a tripod to stabilize your saw when cutting near the ground, meaning two hands and a rest of the powerhead against the thigh or knee?

 

[lxskllr]

It's more bucking. I do a terrible job estimating my depth, and I'm into the dirt before I know it.

 

[SeanKroll]

While bucking, I sometimes have the bar vertically, skimming just off the dirt, watching chip color (looking for bark). I "set the depth" next to the log to know how to stand/ hold the saw to barely not hit the dirt.

If your cutting horizontally, as you progress downward, you can pull the nose back into the log, cut down a bit, then push forward. You can feel the lessened resistance as you hit bark, then air, barely protruding with the nose.

 

[Kaveman]

For awhile I was seriously considering trying to learn to square file, but I cut a lot of dirty stuff, and I also have issues with sticking the bar in the dirt. The work and frustration potential got me to quit the idea. Almost 100% semichisel chain, and a round file works well enough. I wouldn't mind trying someone else's square ground climbing saw though. No dirt to stick it in, and it might hotrod something like a 2511. Do they make files for lp chain?

Don't know if they make a square file that size, but I do know that flat files can be had that'll work for such.

 

[flushcut]

Jeweler files maybe.

 

[davidwyby]

I have an old square grinder....that looks better at a glance and probably worth it for production. I vote @BIGTWIG be the guinea pig.

 

[BIGTWIG]

On it @davidwyby

Where do I put it?

 

[davidwyby]

I’ll fab you a bracket to mount it to the end of the grader blade so you can adjust height and tilt, etc. to where it’s comfortable

 

[BIGTWIG]

There is a sea of broken things to fix on the way. Y’all repack cylinders?? 😂

 

[davidwyby]

There is a sea of broken things to fix on the way. Y’all repack cylinders?? 😂

Maaaaaybe….Pirate Ship has great shipping discounts! 😆

 

[RodgerDodger]

Was checking out stuff at baileys, and saw this...

T&S Professional Chain Grinder (Square Chisel) with Stand

The CZ223 is the latest professional chain grinder from T&S. This grinder sharpens square chisel chain, which is the fastest cutting chainsaw chain made today. The CZ223 is designed from the ground up to set a new standard in sharpening square chisel chain. The CZ223 uses a standard 8” x 1” x...

www.baileysonline.com

Not something I need, and it's *spendy*, but it might be of interest to the right person.

It’s pricey for sure, but by the time you buy a Simington and add all the aftermarket parts it’s close enough to this price to justify it, and I don’t think as nice IMO. That thing looks impressively built. Think I’d actually prefer it over a Simington, even at that price, but my ground guys are hard enough on chisel and semi, guessing they’d wreck a square as soon as you handed it to them.

Thanks for the heads up, didn’t even know they existed.

For awhile I was seriously considering trying to learn to square file, but I cut a lot of dirty stuff, and I also have issues with sticking the bar in the dirt. The work and frustration potential got me to quit the idea. Almost 100% semichisel chain, and a round file works well enough. I wouldn't mind trying someone else's square ground climbing saw though. No dirt to stick it in, and it might hotrod something like a 2511. Do they make files for lp chain?

Don't know if they make a square file that size, but I do know that flat files can be had that'll work for such.

There’s a guy on YouTube that hot rods saws, a timber feller on the West Coast, hotsaws101. He square files 3/8LP and I think he may be the guy that’s even done it on 1/4P. Not sure I’ve ever heard him mention a grinder, could be wrong. Might check his channel out and see if he hand files or grinds.

 

[Treeaddict]

Anyone in the House run a square grind?

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Si
I do on the larger saws.

Silvey

 

[flushcut]

That grinder could pay for your kids collage in a few years should you sell it.

 

[BIGTWIG]

Alright, I want one.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

There have been a few offers....

 

[BIGTWIG]

I have a Silvey

Edit: Razur sharp 2

 

[CurSedVoyce]

 

[Treeaddict]

Si
I do on the larger saws.

Silvey

Is it significantly faster? Does it handle the differently? And lastly, hand file to touch up or just the Silvey?

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Faster, yes, especially in soft wood.
Touch up for me, maybe once or twice, then back to the Silvey.
Depends on how bad = touch up.
Dulls quick in dirty wood.

 

[davidwyby]

Faster yes…also smoother. Takes less power to pull. Square skip is how west coast guys pull those long bars. Also side cuts really well, good for correcting felling cuts. Can be sharpened to angles that are less delicate.

Cons : can cut crooked if you dont pay attention

Harder to sharpen

Dulls faster…than semi chisel for sure. Round full chisel could be close depending on how they’re ground.

I mostly run it on felling saws for clean wood.