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It works quite well IME and one of the reasons to use it is that it can be tied so quickly by flinging the bight around with momentum instead of slowly tying it. All those other knots are good too of course. These days if I need MA for a rope pull I whip out the Wall Hauler because it is stronger and holds progress
 
Whatever knot I use, I tend to try terminating it with a daisy chain for easy untiing. one of my bosses started daisy chaining everything. It beats taking 1-5min to work a well tightened knot loose.
 
Kind of related to this last post... Is there any reason I wouldn't want to make a "running bowline" type knot solely with a daisychain?

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Rigging is what I have in mind
 
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Kind of related to this last post... Is there any reason I wouldn't want to make a "running bowline" type knot solely with a daisychain?

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Rigging is what I have in mind
One of the old timers I learned from liked that knot. He called it a dragon bowline. I’m mostly a spliced eye with biner kinda guy.
 
Hmm... That's 1.5:1 for. Counting flushes as 0.5 cause it was so long ago, and an unknown quantity. I know what to expect from Patrick and Burnham.
 
For that matter, it seems to me it would be slower than a traditional running bowline to tie. But that's just my impression, nothing empirical I can point to. I know I personally can tie a bowline in less than 3 seconds.
 
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Main pro I see is it's easy to untie after loading. I also find it conceptually easy to tie, but others may differ.
Main con is it uses a lot of line. Also probably takes longer tie, but again, individual variation.

Eye & biner's definitely faster.
 
Another thought to keep in mind...while an eye and biner for a running rigging attachment is certainly fast and convenient, we should always be aware of the potential danger of sideloading a biner against a round piece of wood.
 
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For that matter, it seems to me it would be slower than a traditional running bowline to tie. But that's just my impression, nothing empirical I can point to. I know I personally can tie a bowline in less than 3 seconds.
I don’t know that I can tie one in three seconds, but have no doubt I can do it in 5-6 seconds. I’ve looked into some of the “knotless” rigs out there, but I honestly can’t see that much of a time savings. I will confess I’ve watched folks struggle with untying a bowline for way longer than it should take. 😳
 
Treemaster's given me some problems removing knots. A couple times it's taken a hammer to get it broken.
 
On my continuous rope puller, a carabiner is about permanently attatched to one end by anchor hitch. Granted, I only use about a 50 foot hank. Comes a point I just cut it off.
On my 1/2 tree master rigging line, I buy 300 foot hanks. If I am doing NC rigging with that hank, it never pains me to cut about 6" off the damn thing to get the crab out, if I just dont leave it on. But I like to reverse eneds on lines and dont like to tie up gear. If I am using it as a pull rope, more often than NC, no crab allowed.
 
My log skidding treemaster has a shackle on the end that's permanently installed :^D It really is remarkable how well it holds knots. I broke a piece pulling logs, and the remainder was long enough to make a prusik loop, but only with single fisherman knots. It's fine. The knot hasn't budged on it, and that's with pulls hard enough to fuse it to the rope.
 
I don’t know that I can tie one in three seconds, but have no doubt I can do it in 5-6 seconds. I’ve looked into some of the “knotless” rigs out there, but I honestly can’t see that much of a time savings. I will confess I’ve watched folks struggle with untying a bowline for way longer than it should take. 😳
Come now... @flushcut tells us almost anyone can beat that. You are going to have to up your game to stay on the porch with the big dogs, Scott :D.
 
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