Flint Locker - Why?

[lxskllr]

I was looking up friction savers on wesspur, and came across the flint locker. I've been aware of them forever, but I really only looked close today. I don't get it...



Why would I want to do all of this, when a butterfly will handle it? Could also use something like a quickie, but I have some trust issues when hardware like that is out of my sight. I'll use them on occasion, but it doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. A butterfly has textile-textile contact, but I don't really see that as a problem unless you're tying it in exactly the same place every time. Is a flint locker valuable?

 

[Burnham]

You'll have to clue me it...what does it do? Ground retreival?

 

[lxskllr]

It's a canopy anchor for a stationary rope system. Pull the end that goes through the green ring, and it goes up and cinches around a limb. Pull the other end to retrieve it. Looks overcomplicated to me unless there's another use people use it for.

 

[Burnham]

OK, pretty much as I suspected. Thanks.

Impossible to arrange let down rescue by a groundie, using that system. But it does keep your SRT anchor away from meddling groundies .

Other ways to achieve the same thing. Shackle in that butterfly would do it fine, and keep the fiber-on-fiber demon at bay.

 

[lxskllr]

Could also girth hitch a ring in the butterfly and get rid of any moving parts. Not sure rope-rope contact matters though as a one time thing. It causes some wear, but rope's a consumable resource.

 

[Eric H-L]

I thought the same thing until I made one out of spare parts and tried it. eureka ! The knot blocker effect retrieved the canopy anchor with *much* less friction even compared with putting a ring or a quickie on the alpine butterfly. It needs to be tried to be believed. I made mine with a ring and a quickie so one end is midline attachable. Two quickies would work also. It’s not just over-complicating the rig to use extra bling.

 

[friedrich]

its on my mental list to try even though i‘m very happy to canobase with my adjustable ring and ring and most of the time i like to have a dedicated access line anyhow.

 

[SeanKroll]

its on my mental list to try even though i‘m very happy to canobase with my adjustable ring and ring and most of the time i like to have a dedicated access line anyhow.

Can you post a picture and canobase explanation, please?

 

[SeanKroll]

This length of butterfly and connector worked a treat for the trunk cinch/ pull-down line a handful of days ago.

 

[Bodean]

Blaze never dies.

 

[friedrich]

Can you post a picture and canobase explanation, please?

hello sean, took me awhile to take the picture basicly i put the friction safer below a crotch and while setting it up i take a higher redirect. might not be worthy of its own name…