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Tree09

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I'm not thinking of building one at the moment, I'm pretty swamped as it is. I honestly had no clue how much something like that goes for. It's also one thing to build one for yourself and a whole nother thing to start selling them for profit, and honestly i really don't have a need for one. I helped a buddy build his splitter, and he lives next door :lol: I think it's got a permanent 4 way welded on it, and has about an 8 second cycle time, so you can pile wood up in a hurry, that one you guys got must be ungodly productive.

That said i haven't borrowed it, I've been hand splitting. Yeah I know, but since I'm feeding a little insert I'm cutting the cookies short so i can feed it better, and then rather than picking it up i just smack it a few times and it's all over. No picking up or moving heavy stuff, split right where it lands and only touch it when it's firewood, which suits my back a bit better. The loading arm setup removes this problem, since my buddy's splitter is lacking one I'll have to resort to using my chipper crane thing to try and save my back when i finally borrow it.

I took one of those stupid heavy monster mauls and cut the short handle off and welded on a really long one, I'm talking medieval executioner long. With a lazy round the world swing the short rounds sitting on the ground don't fight much at all. The overkill weight combined with the long handle really do all the work, you simply guide it. Production? Nah but fine for me so far. I'll probably borrow the splitter once i get a bunch of wood lined up ready to go, but so far i've been scrounging for stuff so the piles haven't been too big. Scored pretty big tho recently, a buddy has a bunch of logs from removals in a pile, and they're ready to go just gotta cut and split it, so that's pretty awesome.

The splitter we built used a 2 stage pump and a larger sized single ram. It runs the pump at the large displacement most of the time so it's pretty quick but when the going gets tough the psi goes up, kicking a relief for the large displacement section and only pumping the smaller displacement stage. This goes much slower but has tons of power to split the bad stuff, just like a transmission would in a car dropping into low 4x4 or something. Once it's thru it goes back to fast, all done without your input as needed by the system. This also allows an engine to have a higher gpm than a single stage pump while still allowing it to be used at intermittent higher pressure to do the most demanding work. Usually they will develop higher pressures than a comparable sized single stage pump would too because they don't have to compromise with a single stage that has to do it all.


If i were to build one today i would like to try to build a kinetic one. The simplicity, speed, lack of hydraulics and associated headaches, and low hp requirements are attractive, and it would be cheaper since i have a good sized lathe now to help make parts rather than building an entire hydraulic system. I could also get my salvaged h press going and set up something in that, maybe even a 4 way. Then i can justify upgrading a bunch of parts on it and adding power to it :lol: That's the most likely outcome for me, it's a 50 ton they used for bending weld coupons. With power i could do good sized forging with it, broach keyways, press bearings, and set up an Ironworker type shear, punch, and brake to whip out parts in record time. That's enough to be worth it to suffer thru using it to split wood until i can figure out the next best laziest way to do this horrible task for minimal capital outlay since it's just for my house :lol:
 

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When watching a splitter video I pay attention to how many moves the operator has to perform rather than the machine. I like the adjustable box wedge on that 22/28 but the log lifter would get in my way. I’ve come to like my little boom with the winch. Should have spent the extra money and used a winch with a wireless remote tho. Another project for another day.
 

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This weather is a little tricky how to fire the stove .It might get down to the 20's at night then rise to 45 day time .As such it's load it up at night ,get it roaring then choke it down .In the following morning I'll have 4 inches of coals .From then on until dusk it's just a chunk or so about every hour .
At night on that last fill up I lay down the ash which is bone dry. Then cherry and finally oak which is not as dry as I'd like it .As it burns into coals that boils the moisture from the oak and come morning it's all coals . The fire has not burned out since the first of November .I figure I've got about 6-7 more weeks to go at about a face cord a week .I was done processing firewood about the first of October .
 

Al Smith

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I'm in a different situation than most .I've got approx 7.5 acres of woods land and only need to go 500 feet in any direction to get firewood and it's level ground .A shed full of chainsaws and a home built heavy duty Judy of a splitter that will split anything .When I start cutting it might be a face cord a day or a cord and a half depending on how I feel .It only takes 4-41/2 cords for the heating season but I usually cut about 6 .Last year I cut 8 .
I figure WTH I'm retired and in about a week I'll be 75 years old .I can still get-er-done just not as quickly as I once was .
 

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Time to move it or lose it today. 30+ soft maple, it went over a year ago, edge of the muck ground. Getting to it was a problem, dad got the top out last fall when it was dry.
Today I got the trunk out. Started by getting the 084 & 36" bar out, hadn't ran in 3 years.....wiped the moss off it, fresh fuel and it fired on the 6th pull.
Cut the trunk in 5' pieces, they were all the Bobcat wanted.
Will block and rip tomorrow.
A friend stopped this evening, took a look at the 084, "that doesn"t look like fun".....lol. Its not anymore.

Ed
 

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Ed L

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After 2 days with the 084, I'm a walking piece of shrit. Totally beat, so far I can't take a nap.

Going to look into gettting my 066 rebuilt, needs seals and a piston.

Ed
 

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70cc saw would have been enough for 30" soft maple, and better on you. I'd have used an old dual port muffler 046, or even a new 572. A ported 90cc would be way faster than the 084.
 

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I used a 2100 for a few days logging back in the day. Lordy it was heavy. Kinda like using a sledgehammer to drive a tack.
 

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Last large crane job I did with a crew in Maryland they had an 084 that was hard as hell to start for the three trunk picks (two cuts aloft and the basal cut). Ever since my shoulder rebuild I haven’t been able to start that relic. I made them start it on the ground and by the time I hauled it up for those two cuts I was ready for a few days off!
 

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Last large crane job I did with a crew in Maryland they had an 084 that was hard as hell to start for the three trunk picks (two cuts aloft and the basal cut). Ever since my shoulder rebuild I haven’t been able to start that relic. I made them start it on the ground and by the time I hauled it up for those two cuts I was ready for a few days off!
They should have hauled it up for you. Keep a pulley with you, so they can pull the other end of the rope.
 

Ed L

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It bothered me to cut up that Maple, 2 good saw logs there. Sadly, they were to big for our mill, its also manual, turing the cant would've been a pita.
When quartering the blocks I had 3 cuts that I had to wedge open.
WTH? Stress? Grain? Never had that before
Started splitting, damn, beautiful ambrosia beetle stain and curly...
We split 36 quarters and there was not 1 piece that split straight. The grain was so jacked up the boards would have been unusable. We didn't try to stack it, threw it in a pile.

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SeanKroll

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If quartering anyway, why not halve or quarter the log?

Noodling is easier, but ripping on a 45⁰ isn't so bad.
 
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