"Best" saddle

[SeanKroll]

Idk how they can/ why they would sell knock off saddles for 10% of the real deal.

 

[lxskllr]

Adds excitement to every climb! Aside from wondering about your TIP, you can speculate on when your bridge is gonna fail :^D

 

[Tree09]

Are they certified?

 

[lxskllr]

I wouldn't trust any label they put on those things. You couldn't buy quality material and sew a saddle yourself for $64, much less $33 D^:

 

[friedrich]

i use a valiant rope saddle and really enjoy it, interesting to figure out the harness yourselfa little bit. i also really like the treemotion s.light.

 

[flushcut]

IMO life support gear should not be bought on the basis of a cheap price.

 

[Tree09]

Oh i agree, i was just curious if they were certified. One of those might be a good start to build a rope harness, i forget the acronym, maybe mcs or something? Basically it was padding and you used rope to build the harness so everything's replaceable and adjustable. Save a bunch of sewing at least

 

[Kaveman]

Idk how they can/ why they would sell knock off saddles for 10% of the real deal.

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Answer is simple. Uyger slave labor. The ethnic Muslims in China live very hard lives. The government subsidizes most businesses as well. Between those two points, that's what keeps their costs down.

Also also, sub standard materials.

 

[lxskllr]

and shit quality control. One person could get a saddle that's amazing, and the next guy gets one and ring peels apart. That's even more insidious, cause you'll get people gambling on getting an amazing saddle.

 

[Eric H-L]

Are they certified?

The Amazon description does say CE certified. If you bought it it might have a fake CE label. When the knockoff venders get caught the make the excuse that their CE label means “China Export” Official CE logo and fake laboratory CE certificate - https://www.intouch-quality.com/blog/official-ce-logo-and-fake-laboratory-ce-certificate

 

[Eric H-L]

Oh i agree, i was just curious if they were certified. One of those might be a good start to build a rope harness, i forget the acronym, maybe mcs or something? Basically it was padding and you used rope to build the harness so everything's replaceable and adjustable. Save a bunch of sewing at le

MCRS. They changed the name to “Valient” Friedrich was saying he loves his (see above.)
I agree it woukd be a good start and all your life support would be independent of the cheap saddle.