Trying to save my pine (again)

[davidwyby]

Hey fellas. I’m more of a demo dead stuff guy…kinda brought it back last time, not looking good again. Maybe needs more of the same? Thread: Please help me save my pine (bugs) - https://opeforum.com/threads/please-help-me-save-my-pine-bugs.21068/

Thanks

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Liquid Meritt. Made by Bayer Corp. Water in systemic. Will go 100 up a tree. Monterrey make a less expensive version that includes nutrients for the tree.
Then water in super thrive and fish emusion. Mulch. If you can air spade or verticle mulch, that would also be ideal to loosen the soils up some.
Keep watering the tree.
The insect stuff, you'll need about one oz per inch of circumference at three feet high above ground measurement.
Home Depot should have it. If not, check some Nurseries.

 

[davidwyby]

Found my fb post from last go round.

I forgot to mention we are below sea level in the same valley as the Salton sea, so the environment/soil is pretty salty. Don’t know if that might play in.

My grandpa used to occasionally deep water the trees and I think add gypsum…? St Augustine grass makes it hard to do much with the soil.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Looks like it mihht be too late. Lot of brown.
Could be the pic?
Well, only costs some money and time to try.
Worst case, remove and replace.

 

[davidwyby]

…with something better. I like Sissoo.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

One of my favorite yard trees.

 

[davidwyby]

Gave it one more shot. Imidacloprid, deep water, knock the dead out. I have a feeling I’m gonna be dropping it this winter.

 

[davidwyby]

Was looking ok for a while, now more brown.
Was on the roof replacing vents and noticed the sap droplets glistening in the light.

 

[Marc-Antoine]

They are the outcome of a tree's defense against the little borer insects attracted by its weakness. Filling the little tunnels with sticky glue surely annoys them.
It isn't usually a good sign, even if I saw once a Cedrus fully recovered after a massive attack.

 

[davidwyby]

Tree has been maintaining despite this idiot (will explain). Then I noticed 3 more brown limbs. I thought it must have bugs again and wondered if the right thing to do wasn’t to whack and burn the whole thing to prevent spread. Been watering it more, looked at it this am (from the ground, need to get up in it and inspect) and realized the brown needles are on the S and W sides…just like half the trees in town (that aren’t all brown from no summer rain). So maybe no bugs just bad summer and bad owner, lack of water. I’ll get up there and see/prune.

S is left


S is up, W is left


Going thru old family pics a while back, found pics of my mom and uncles in the front with their cars, etc. when the trees were small.

 

[davidwyby]

Trying to keep non desert trees in the desert is kind of dumb…

 

[Kaveman]

I don't recall if we ever discussed the species the pine in question is?

 

[davidwyby]

I don't recall if we ever discussed the species the pine in question is?

Assume it’s pondo?

 

[SeanKroll]

How's the root zone?

Concrete on 2 sides.

Reflected heat from concrete and asphalt?

Too heavily irrigated?

Compaction?



Grass and trees hate each other. Fertilizer?

 

[davidwyby]

How's the root zone?

Concrete on 2 sides.

Reflected heat from concrete and asphalt?

Too heavily irrigated?

Compaction?

St Augustine grass over clay/silt. Could probably use aeration/deep water and gypsum I think.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

I think your main issue is a pine planted in the desert. Maybe just me.....

 

[SeanKroll]

Especially as an exotic plant in a limited root zone, I would guess that the larger it gets, the more difficult it will be to healthy.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Spot on.

 

[davidwyby]

I have been expecting to have to give it the motor sword treatment...should make a good YT video...

...will see how it does. Once it get's too brown, thassit.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Remove and replace treatment

 

[stikine]

I have been expecting to have to give it the motor sword treatment...should make a good YT video...

...will see how it does. Once it get's too brown, thassit.

Maybe another trailer landing video for Burnham?

 

[CurSedVoyce]

<pictures Burnam just shaking his head.... >

 

[davidwyby]

Maybe another trailer landing video for Burnham?

I was thinking truck and trailer...reminds me I have another pine...

 

[SeanKroll]

Hahaha

 

[stikine]

I was thinking truck and trailer...reminds me I have another pine...

Make it epic David. We're counting on you since us Northern latitude folks are mostly in the dark now.