trunk integrity?
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CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
thats what I was thinking as well.
I had a bad looking Aleppo pine to do in a couple of weeks, was going to use tall pine to right to TIP and mabey pine to left for second TIP, well homeowner called this morning and said it was down thru neighbors yard... roots were rotted and failed (uprooted) with little storm we had 2 days ago
Had a blue like that... showed up to do the deed ( I had several other crispys to do there as well) and the dang thing had fallen over. I was going to use a sky line for my life support and an ohhhh shat lanyard. Too late.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Well a zip tie wont take much abuse at the D 
murphy4trees
TreeHouser
My mentor told me he was cutting a dead ash... no outer signs of decay.. he took a piece, just bombing it, no rigging and the whole tree fell right out from under him.. fortunately he was tied into another tree, and lived to tell the story..
Raj
TreeHouser
Some companies up here have a no ash climbing policy.
pantheraba
More biners!!!
Wow...that speaks volumes.
squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
And me I just had an ass, cash, or grass climbing policy. Heh, no one climbs for free!
Spellfeller
Clueless but careful
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Howdy, peeps.
Here's a (low-res) video that I hope is somewhat helpful. The exposed/bark-less wood gives a nice solid sound, but the punk stuff that breaks out looks a lot like Scott's rotted Aleppo...
(Pardon the "Froggie went a courtin'" voice; I've got a pretty good chest cold...)
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Here's a (low-res) video that I hope is somewhat helpful. The exposed/bark-less wood gives a nice solid sound, but the punk stuff that breaks out looks a lot like Scott's rotted Aleppo...
(Pardon the "Froggie went a courtin'" voice; I've got a pretty good chest cold...)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xuyo_Uj1ang" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I might climb it but I sure wouldn't rig off it!
SouthSoundTree-
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Yep. Can you free drop pieces?
Drill it 4 places or more, offset from one another, not in one horizontal band.
Alternate tie-in tree?
A rental tow-behind bucket-lift is probably a cheap option, as well as having someone Put On Ground Only with a bucket-truck.
Drill it 4 places or more, offset from one another, not in one horizontal band.
Alternate tie-in tree?
A rental tow-behind bucket-lift is probably a cheap option, as well as having someone Put On Ground Only with a bucket-truck.
pantheraba
More biners!!!
Climbers rely on trunk integrity to hold them up...trees rely upon root integrity to hold them up.
I doubt that the rot you see stops miraculously at ground level...significant root issues look probable to me.
A lift is a great idea...if you can TIP into another tree and not have to attach to that tree at all you might be able to get something done...maybe rig off another tree?
I have one I'll be doing soon where a 60 foot maple leaning over a house is flanked by 80-90 foot pines about 8 feet away. I will be swinging pieces off the pines from a high pine rigging point.
I don't think you need to be attached to that tree...at all.
I doubt that the rot you see stops miraculously at ground level...significant root issues look probable to me.
A lift is a great idea...if you can TIP into another tree and not have to attach to that tree at all you might be able to get something done...maybe rig off another tree?
I have one I'll be doing soon where a 60 foot maple leaning over a house is flanked by 80-90 foot pines about 8 feet away. I will be swinging pieces off the pines from a high pine rigging point.
I don't think you need to be attached to that tree...at all.
Spellfeller
Clueless but careful
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Thanks, guys. Alas, there is no tree close enough to rig off or use as a TIP.
Sean called it; we're going with something like this 50' towable job:
We have at least three trees we can get with this thing; so it should pay for itself quickly...
Sean called it; we're going with something like this 50' towable job:
We have at least three trees we can get with this thing; so it should pay for itself quickly...
Spellfeller
Clueless but careful
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Truth be told, Fiona, I'm not 100% that "John Q. Public"--as opposed to a business with trained workers--can just waltz in and rent from the vendors we're looking at. We'll soon find out!
If it turns out we can, I'll be darned sure to check level, wear a fall-arrest harness, helmet, etc. Thankfully all the power lines in this development are buried!
What else should I keep in mind...?
If it turns out we can, I'll be darned sure to check level, wear a fall-arrest harness, helmet, etc. Thankfully all the power lines in this development are buried!
What else should I keep in mind...?
sawman
TreeHouser
looks like the one I rent from time to time.
they got an electric one and a gas one,little slow but work well imo.
in jersey anybody with a drivers lenience and $250 to 300 can rent one.
they got an electric one and a gas one,little slow but work well imo.
in jersey anybody with a drivers lenience and $250 to 300 can rent one.
sawman
TreeHouser
I keep it hooked to the truck if I can just piece of mind and its ready to move if I have to.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Speaking of pull... Shoot a line in and give it some smooth pulls or tugs. How does it feel? Did you see root plate move? Anything break out?
A good pull can tell you a lot before you climb right up. Put some lateral force on the tree a little at a time. See what gives. Maybe it won't give at all.
A good pull can tell you a lot before you climb right up. Put some lateral force on the tree a little at a time. See what gives. Maybe it won't give at all.
Spellfeller
Clueless but careful
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Stephen, are you saying that if it doesn't give at the root plate, then it's okay to climb...?
Since my neighbor is willing to cover the first $180 of the lift rental, I think I'd be a bit nutty not to go that route...not that you can put a price limit on avoiding a fall to your doom!
murphy4trees
TreeHouser
outrigger pads.. don't trust anything that looks like it might be soft ground... plywood, planks etc.. get the level right... the lift is a no-brainer on that tree... otherwise you need to calculate your risk of death vs the reward of completion. Hard to do with limited info... and especially if its being used for other trees and its cheap..
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Stephen, are you saying that if it doesn't give at the root plate, then it's okay to climb...?
Since my neighbor is willing to cover the first $180 of the lift rental, I think I'd be a bit nutty not to go that route...not that you can put a price limit on avoiding a fall to your doom!
If he'll go for the lift rental, by all means. Problem solved.
Altissimus
TreeHouser
...and a "secret cut" , w that the job is a lock
