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[stig]

That won't work on the easy splitting hardwoods logs like beech, ash and maple, Burnham.
Way too much tension to deal with.
Best way is to measure the whole thing out and start bucking from the tips inwards.
If it doesn't rise up by itself, as is usually the case with big trees, get a skidder to winch it up and fell the log afterwards.
That has the poetic name "cannon- felling" here, because on large areas that have been knocked over by storm, like we had in 81 ( cleanup time 1½ years) and 99 ( clean-up time 1 year) once the skidder crew has raised the logs, the whole thing looks like a picture of the front in WW1.
The cut off logs almost never raise straight up, so they end up looking like a bunch of cannons in a demolished forest.

 

[Burnham]

Makes sense, Stig.

Although I have gotten away with it on red alder...but just a few instances does not come close to equaling your experience. I probably just got lucky.

 

[stig]

Are red alder logs valuable?

I'm talking about saving valuable veneer logs, not loggers.

Actually I ran 4-5 apprentices during the 99 storm clean-up, and what I told them was to save the log, if it could be done without danger to themself.

It is extremely hard to judge tension in blown over hardwoods.
Mostly the rootwad will have compressed the dirt on the log side, so you end up standing below ground level as you cut the log free ( you have to include the butt swell on beech, or they'll split before reaching the mill)

One of my fellow State forest sawyers in 99 had his foot crushed when the log jumped out of the depression it lay in and landed on him.

I came up to a fallen beech, decided it lay flat enough that it had no internal stress and set to cutting the log loose.

When I'd cut about 2" into it, the damned thing literally exploded, splitting up into toothpicks and throwing my 064 over my head. The apprentice who watched it still talks about it today.
That experience sure kept him from getting over confident during the rest of the clean up.

Of all the apprentices I ran during that time, only one was injured. He caught a spring pole to the face and got slammed real good. But he was back in the woods the next day, face all black and blue.

I implemented the willow swith policy back then. I would stand behind an apprentice and if they were doing something dangerous, I had a 12 foot willow switch that I would hit them with. That meant STOP!!!
That way I didn't have to step into the danger zone and yell to be heard above the saw.
Worked great.

 

[NeTree]

Considering how much water was in the hole, I'd have probably went further out, too.

 

[Burnham]

A nice veneer quality red alder log is valuable...but not to me .

I certainly give way to your much higher level of experience with hardwoods, Stig.

 

[NeTree]

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[Burnham]

 

[NeTree]

Whattaya mean

 

[Burnham]

Well, you already posted that earlier today, so I dunno what you're saying about my post by doing it now, that's all.

edit: 21 hours ago.

 

[NeTree]

This is the machine I just got done putting new drives in. It's working good, and now I can go home tomorrow.

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[NeTree]

Must be getting old; I seriously don't remember posting that one!

 

[bonner1040]

That won't work on the easy splitting hardwoods logs like beech, ash and maple, Burnham.
Way too much tension to deal with.
Best way is to measure the whole thing out and start bucking from the tips inwards.
If it doesn't rise up by itself, as is usually the case with big trees, get a skidder to winch it up and fell the log afterwards.
That has the poetic name "cannon- felling" here, because on large areas that have been knocked over by storm, like we had in 81 ( cleanup time 1½ years) and 99 ( clean-up time 1 year) once the skidder crew has raised the logs, the whole thing looks like a picture of the front in WW1.
The cut off logs almost never raise straight up, so they end up looking like a bunch of cannons in a demolished forest.

It was a willow.

 

[stig]

A nice veneer quality red alder log is valuable...but not to me .

I forgot.
You just toss your logs in the rivers

 

[pantheraba]

Just watch....

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[pantheraba]

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[pantheraba]

This one gets better as you watch:

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[NeTree]

Guess I'm not the only one getting old and forgetful...

 

[MasterBlaster]

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He bet ya to it!

 

[pantheraba]

HA! I don't check this thread often, mist it.

 

[bonner1040]

I had seen one of these Bob Villa vids.. didnt know there were others...

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[woodworkingboy]

There are people like Bob, they know a little about a lot of things. Unless it is part of something larger and more encompassing, it's a dis-service to put out a video like that, imo.

 

[NeTree]

Textbook example of how to do everything WRONG.

 

[bonner1040]

What? I have based my entire skillset on his videos... Did I miss something?

 

[NeTree]

 

[woodworkingboy]

I didn't miss that Bob has nice hair! It will help get you on tv.