Seems Husky stepped in it again.

I'm going to run the 272XP for its first time tomorrow, seeing I have a all day job grinding stumps today.
Well today I was taking down some trees for a customer, had the "brand new" Husqvarna 272XP ready for its very first cut ever and my camera on standby in my pocket. I fired up the 272 and said to myself, "this is no good, all the trees I have here are lowly maples, a fine saw like this that came from Sweden almost 20 years ago should be making its first cut in a birch or at least a spruce."

Tomorrow's job I'm removing tall birchs for a lady, the 272 XP will finally after all these years get to make some chips.:lol:

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Looks like fun, Willard, deflowering a virgin.

Anyone ever run a Shingu saw? Made in my neck of the woods, but I don't think I have ever seen one in operation. A good reputation however, and not cheap. This model is like $700 new. I don't know what I might need 27ccs for, but I'm scoping it out at the auction here. I like the design and color.
 

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Im not mad at Husky. What these saws manufacturers face is tough. They have to keep coming up with newer, cleaner saws. We all know that. Its not easy. Look at diesel trucks for example. Ford for instance. The 7.3 International was legendary. They were faced with the challenges of providing that same power, reliability, and durability, but cleaner. It was a tough road since to get the bugs worked out in the engines that replaced that 7.3. Husky and Stihl face the same challenge. Its not as easy as making a new awesome replacement that works like the old one. Same with Stihl. Sure I know some of you all rant and rave about 441s and 261s and brand new 660's, but honestly, I think they are junk compared to the benchmark saws that Stihl once produced (044, 046, 066 etc.) I dont think that its Stihls fault. Theyre just doing the best they can.

As far as Im concerned, the days of outstanding chainsaws are over. Period. Blame each manufacturer until you are blue in the face, but its the government(s) that did this. Husky and Stihl are just scrambling to churn out great tools, with the rules they are given, and by the time they start working the bugs out of something, they're forced to make something newer and cleaner.

We have no laws stating a specific engine, brand or exoust rate here in Sweden......
I bet they could sell the 254, 242, 357 just as well. The tuffest regulations are in California, right?
So no saws other than these environmentally correct is sold? Not the older models like 357 395 etc. No Dolmar saws? No consumer grade saws?

It is all BS In my humble opinion. Not the very least bit environmentally friendly if you look at what resources is need to take out new models.
There are lots of better things to gain on that easier would do a lot more good.
 
Looks familiar....
only these in my shop are 36.3 cc
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The 272XP pulled some chips today for the first time. Rather then use the original Oregon 73 LP chain I put on a Oregon Vanguard chisel with the "vibe ban" for a little extra smoothness.
After running it a few tanks I reset the carb from the rich factory settings, a little leaner while it idled, something I can't do with the 372 without taking off the air filter and the saw not running, because of its spongy anti vibe rubber mounted carb causing the screwdriver to bounce out of the screw heads.
It brings back fond memories of my Jonsered 630 Super , only with ALOT more balls. Well balanced , excellent ergonomics in a compact powerhouse.

I now see why Husqvarna reintroduced the 272XP in their South America factory sold alongside the 372XP for the extra variety in the pro market. The thing they changed though was they detuned the 272XP to 4.8 h.p. from the original 5.2 hp so the 372XP still left at 5.3 hp would be competitive in sales.
Here's some pics of todays 272's first work. I made a 1 min 24 sec video of the first cut in the facecut and setting up the T square but I have no clue how to get it on here.
 

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I made a 1 min 24 sec video of the first cut in the facecut and setting up the T square but I have no clue how to get it on here.

You dont get it on here, you get it on Youtube then embed the link so it will play here in the thread. :)
 
Willard do you have a youtube account to upload your video to?
 
Willard do you have a youtube account to upload your video to?
I tried last night Kevin. I got the account all set up but it couldn't process my video. According to the process it got the video downloaded which took over 2 hrs, but stayed at 0% processing all night. Still at 0% this morning.
 
At the moment work crews are installing telephone fibre optic cables in our small isolated northern town. That may be why I'm having troubles uploading to Youtube.
Will keep trying though.
 
The 272 is more compact in size then the 372 and with its narrower centered b/c and outboard clutch the 272 is a better balanced handler then the 372, [just like what the outboard clutch 346 was designed to do].

This family of saws is based on 162. That is why there was no alternative to clutch.
there was no reason to change anything and redesign crank and clutch on this family.

Husqvarna liked outboard clutch design and had it as much as they could.
Well I was looking at some Husqvarna 560XP /562XP IPLs today and low and behold these new "best thing since sliced bread saws" have a outboard clutch !!!!
8)
 
I think it is a matter of preference more than anything.
I prefer the inboard as it is more convenient.
Jonsered had some fine saws with it that was very good limbing saws. 410 was years ahead of its time.
 
I ran the 560 and the gyro effect was not less than on the 262 or 357.
The position of the handles and engine with tilted cylinder do its thing as it gets a lower oint of weight, but it also feels longer.
 
Sorry for the derail, but I just thought that this is an interesting looking saw being auctioned. I can find no information about it, and the seller doesn't say much. Given that the there appears to be no chain brake, it must be an older model.
 

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Jonsered had some fine saws with it that was very good limbing saws.
Magnus here is one of my favorite Jonsereds, a Jonsereds 80 which at 80cc had a inboard clutch.
But yes the 410 would be a better limbing saw though:)
 

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Sorry for the derail, but I just thought that this is an interesting looking saw being auctioned. I can find no information about it, and the seller doesn't say much. Given that the there appears to be no chain brake, it must be an older model.
Echo 2930T sold as Makita. Not sure what model number it had, but usually the same...
I have the version before this with rear handle, 2900.
 
Magnus here is one of my favorite Jonsereds, a Jonsereds 80 which at 80cc had a inboard clutch.
But yes the 410 would be a better limbing saw though:)

I have a 80 but have not had it going.
My favorite after the P and XA has to be the 60/601 75/751 saws. Wonderful saws without a noise in them, running right, not vibration other than piston turning. Wonderful craftsmanship making these.
751: http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3528
601: http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=185
 
I have a 80 but have not had it going.
My favorite after the P and XA has to be the 60/601 75/751 saws. Wonderful saws without a noise in them, running right, not vibration other than piston turning. Wonderful craftsmanship making these.
751: http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3528
601: http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=185
Magnus those are beautiful old saws. They look well balanced with the rear handle in line with the bar/ chain. Seeing these are inboard clutch saws the bar is mounted further out from the center of the saw. So with the rear handle also further out from center good balance was kept.
 
If you have the handle close to center it is easy to move the saw from side to side.
Example:
Impale a steak on a rod and turn it. Easier to turn the closer to center it is.
It will mean you hold the saw with left hand further from center to compensate the weight.
Jonsered XF had 3 styles of handle, one more square that left a corner in top and long distance in top of handle to place left hand. In fact with this handle you could hold the hand outside the saw even.

The reason rear handle was as it is in these saws was a practical manufacturing problem. It was best to have it on one crankcase side.

A bit of the advantage to having a lot of saws.. You get to see alot and how they solve the different things.
Testing new stuff....
 
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