canadiantreeman
TreeHouser
Thx...I've already found a dood, but I'll check this Simonizer character out for the next saw. Saw goes in at the end of the month. I'll keep yall posted.
MS660, sleeper, or dud?
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Al Smith
Mac Daddy
There's pro's and cons to a raised dome piston . However if you don't do certain things to the porting they really have no advantage over a flat top .
You have to remember though that cutting a dome in the piston effectively is the same is raising the ex port .If however you cut a small pop up,in other words going in too far you will loose compression and alter the flame front propigation over the piston . If you screw up there's no going back .You can always cut metal off but once it's gone,it's gone .
I think the next one I do will be a flat top just to compare . Ha one advantage to reworking cheap saws is if you screw up you aren't out much .So far I haven't .Although I've had to go back in and fix things that didn't quite agree with me .
You have to remember though that cutting a dome in the piston effectively is the same is raising the ex port .If however you cut a small pop up,in other words going in too far you will loose compression and alter the flame front propigation over the piston . If you screw up there's no going back .You can always cut metal off but once it's gone,it's gone .
I think the next one I do will be a flat top just to compare . Ha one advantage to reworking cheap saws is if you screw up you aren't out much .So far I haven't .Although I've had to go back in and fix things that didn't quite agree with me .
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Actually, I was able to go back, sort of. I left myself an open port situation by opening it up too much, so I welded a small piece of aluminum on to the piston skirt, and shaped it to the edge. To my skepticism, it worked out.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Lowered the intake a tad too much eh ? They like to spit back at you when that happens .
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Widow Shooter
Guest
had a chance to run two used saws today,a rebuilt MS 660 and a 395XP, the 660 had a 24" bar, the 395 a 28" bar, the 395XP flat out-cut the 660, even with the bigger bar, not by a small margin, by a big one actually.
I'm not really loyal to a certain brand, so I bought the 395XP
it is an '05
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
From what I've seen most Huskies in the same displacement class have a leg up on Stihl .I am assuming the double tunnel transfer port design Huskies use might be the reason .
SkwerI
Treehouser
Nice buy, Carey. That's about the age of my 395, and mine kicks ass also. It should serve you well.
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Widow Shooter
Guest
Put it right to work on a big ash-bole... ( like that word-play?
) runs really well and eats big wood.Lou liked it too, albeit a bit big for her to handle
Burnham
Woods walker
Here it comes, Cary...
Wrap that thumb around the handle, my friend. You'll have so much stronger grip and thus better ability to control the saw, most especially if she kicks back.
Wrap that thumb around the handle, my friend. You'll have so much stronger grip and thus better ability to control the saw, most especially if she kicks back.
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Widow Shooter
Guest
okay dad.... lol, I do, normally, but sometimes it moves a bit.
I got a pretty good grip B, don't you worry your pretty head lol
lol, I do, normally, but sometimes it moves a bit.I got a pretty good grip B, don't you worry your pretty head
lol
Burnham
Woods walker
I'm sure you do, son... but it's even better with that opposed force of thumb and fingers in play 
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Pretty head, ha! You're much the prettier one, far as I can see.
Nice looking saw btw, even if it is orange.
.Pretty head, ha! You're much the prettier one, far as I can see
.Nice looking saw btw, even if it is orange
.
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Widow Shooter
Guest
good to know we all have a surrogate Pop out there watching over us... seriously thanks B.
seriously thanks B.
brendonv
Tree Hugger
Guy I subbed for last weekend got comfortable and had the saw kick back and hit is lip. If he wasn't wearing a hard hat the saw could have damaged more as it hit the brim.
Don't get comfy.
Don't get comfy.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Ha neither one of you two are pretty .Lou is pretty .
Burnham
Woods walker
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Oh BTW I had one come back on me today,my damned hand is still sore but I had a death grip on it .Never under estimate the stress of a fallen tree .
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Couldn't help noticing that Lou appears to have an open port situation going on as well. Right Al, intake opened up too much on the bottom. I think I've widened an exhaust too much too, so a piston window slightly showed up. Not so serious it would seem.
First time running it yesterday, I really like the way the 242xp is performing with the larger model carb on there, a limbing saw became also a bucking saw.
Some slight stutter occasionally in the spool up, but it isn't dialed in yet. 42ccs weight is not at all bad to carry around all day.
First time running it yesterday, I really like the way the 242xp is performing with the larger model carb on there, a limbing saw became also a bucking saw.
Some slight stutter occasionally in the spool up, but it isn't dialed in yet. 42ccs weight is not at all bad to carry around all day.
Burnham
Woods walker
You're right, Bren.
Bucking up rounds where you have all manner of tree bits piled around is an easy venue for catching a bar tip and getting a nasty surprise. I know of a FS cutter, well experienced, took a bar to the face cutting firewood rounds in a FS work center yard. Low risk environment, but you gotta keep your mind on the job full-time.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Open window,wow .You gots ta mark that piston next time and double check it before you get out the die grinder .Oh well things happen .
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Yesterday the back of the mini hit me in the back as the guy operating it was swinging it around. I was bucking at the time and went flying. I'd say the blame was fifty-fifty. No damage but a bit of a start.
Burnham
Woods walker
Whoa...that could have turned out ugly, Jay.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Yep. There are so many things to keep in mind when doing this work. Working quickly and safely has it's attention demands.
Burnham
Woods walker
Eyes in the back of our heads would be a good thing. Somehow we have to keep sharp, and like you say, it can be on so many fronts simultaneously. Glad to hear it was not a bad one.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Easy enough to have gotten on the other side of the log to cut, a little cramped, but...since the mini was working in the area. It's the little things too.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
LOL @ the rookie thumb mistake!
