Lubing carabiners

[SouthSoundTree]

Well, it would be far to say that I'm not firing on all cylinders.

Step one, get both carabiners to boil.

Step two, add water to pan, add carabiners, put on stove on high.

Step three, be sleep-deprived from newborn baby.

Step four, smell the faint, funky, hot metallic smell and think its the laptop overheating or something.

Step five, smell the laptop and conclude that's not it, so it must be the hand ascender I cut down and ground for a floating foot ascender for a rope walker system that's making that funny metallic smell from sitting in the sun... maybe... even though I ground and filed the ascender a while earlier.

Step six, conclude that of course that doesn't make sense.

Step seven, go to the kitchen stove and conclude it wasn't a good idea to boil the pot dry!


I don't know what these biners were called, but now their not called life-support. They used to be a pale coppery color. Now, not so much. I didn't like them much anyhow.


Step eight, call Wesspur to add RockD ORCA 'biners as replacements to the order of hitch cord ordered earlier today to try as combo's with my poison hyvee, arbormaster, and xtc climblines with the Hitch Hiker.

Luckily, Wesspur had only packed this morning's order and hadn't gotten it out the door yet.

They have some good online prices on some compact steel D's. Fusion Tacoma, haven't heard of 'em, but I'll give 'em a try. $14.

 

[Burnham]

I said, "simmer".

 

[SoonerFan]

Those biner's need to be in the "what's for dinner thread"...

 

[CurSedVoyce]

I would say well done... but.....

 

[SouthSoundTree]

Its one way to replace gear that isn't preferred. I wonder if any strength loss has occurred. How hot would they have to get to be damaged? Is there a metallurgist in the room? I'm wondering about using the for speedlining, as most of my speedline biners are non-locking.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

It is really not all that high a temp to screw up aluminum. I know it has been discussed before.

 

[SouthSoundTree]

Good for tying down brush on the trailer then.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Pends on pot holes.

 

[top_notch]

Hey Jack, How long does that SHOE GOO last on the toes of your boots? When it starts to wear does it look crappy like peeling skin or something? Seems like it could be a good idea!

P.S. sorry for the derail, but I will second shoe goo is probably not a good lube for beeners

Speaking of SHOE GOO ... it's already IN my arsenal:

PARDON THE DERAIL

But to the OP -- For the record: Shoe Goo makes a TERRIBLE 'biner lube.

 

[SouthSoundTree]

http://www.shoecaresupplies.com/Foot_Aids_p/boot-toe-saver-caps.htm

havent tried 'em, but look good.

 

[Reddog]

Annealing starts at 250F to 350F depending on what grade of aluminum.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Thanks. I could not remember, but I was surprised when I read those low temps the first time. Wen I cleaned my biners in a "simmer" I had a dinner plate in the bottom of the pot to keep the biners from coming in contact with the metal bottom. As that would be hotter than the boiling water.

 

[SouthSoundTree]

My guess is that they definitely exceeded 250 degrees. No rigging use. Maybe just use on the brush trailer. Would be interesting to see what it takes to break them, like with the 3/4 ton rope puller.

If one wanted to get gourmet, a double boiler would be a good approach, too.

 

[Jack]

Hey Jack, How long does that SHOE GOO last on the toes of your boots? When it starts to wear does it look crappy like peeling skin or something? Seems like it could be a good idea!

P.S. sorry for the derail, but I will second shoe goo is probably not a good lube for beeners

A single application (on each) of the SHOE GOO has lasted the life of the last thee boots. But, it's all in the prep: 1) Clean the area with mineral spirits; 2) Rough the area with sand-paper; 3) Apply the Shoe Goo liberally to the area (it kinda self-levels). However, it could be spot re-coated if you wear through.

"... does it look crappy ...?" They're work boots ... they're s'pose to look crappy.

Seriously, I've seen a little peel at the edges but mostly because of incomplete prep (above). But, I've had absolutely no citations from the Fashion Police!

 

[Burnham]

That's actually a very good idea, Sean.

I thought about using a metal trivet in the bottom of the sauce pan, but in the end I've always just brought the water up to a boil without the biners, then dropped them in and tended them closely, swirling the water around frequently and using the lowest setting on my gas stovetop, which actually is just below a boil.

Might not want to clean ball-lock biners this way, I don't know how the plastic would respond.

 

[wiley_p]

Sean, send those up to me and I will break them on the bed. I'm wondering if there was any damage at all?

 

[Burnham]

Looks like the gates no longer are free to swing, in the picture.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

I used to use one of these, but it was broken. Holds the biners up off the bottom of the pan just fine. and you can do batches by just lifting the basket out and letting the water keep temp. Just had to use a plate on the fly that one time.

 

[stig]

Good for steaming broccoli, too!

 

[Burnham]

Great use, we have a couple too.

 

[SouthSoundTree]

Okay, Dave. Will do. I haven't been able to find them again, new, in order to know the manufacturer, but the original strength rating of 30 KN still shows



The gates were stiff at first, but loosened up. The locking barrel is screwed up, as some plastic-y guide piece is gone. I suspect that the gate action would be okay with some lube. They are DRY.

No knowing what has happened to them. It'll be interesting to know what strength loss they had, if any.

 

[Burnham]

Yep, that'll be interesting.

 

[pete mctree]

I think, even though they are no longer serviceable in my opinion, they will test out just fine. No idea why, apart from gut feeling & years ofbreaking kit through use & abuse.

 

[wiley_p]

Sean I got those biners. I'll break them today hopefully.
Lets get a pool going. I think they are gonna brak at 5100#. Anybody else?

 

[MasterBlaster]

4750!