Ivermectin vs. Covid and the vaccine

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The evidence which suggests that this is no naturally evolved virus

Minerva has uploaded a version of the controversial article that claims the coronavirus is not natural in origin.
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Sørensen is quite confident that the virus originated in a laboratory. “I think it’s more than 90 percent certain. It’s at least a far more probable explanation than it having developed this way in nature”, Sørensen said.

Sørensen also highlights other data than those related to the virus’ properties:

“The properties that we now see in the virus, we have yet to discover anywhere in nature. We know that these properties make the virus very infectious, so if it came from nature, there should also be many animals infected with this, but we have still not been able to trace the virus in nature”, Sørensen also elaborated in last week's interview.
 
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– The most logical explanation is that it comes from a laboratory

The well-known Norwegian virologist Birger Sørensen and his colleagues have examined the corona virus. They believe it has certain properties which would not evolve naturally. These conclusions are politically controversial, but in this interview he shares the findings behind the headlines.
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The most logical explanation is that it comes from a laboratory

You don't need to be a scientist to reach that conclusion... A little common sense is all it takes... what are the odds that the largest epidemic in the last 100 years comes from a wild coronavirus in bats at a meat market that is only 8 miles away from the only stage 4 virology lab in CHina that happened to be studying coronaviruses in bats? another situation where common sense trumps science
 
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The reason why doctors charge people with no insurance far less is because they are required by law to treat everyone and they know that if they can't pay it'll be a complete loss in bankruptcy, so something is better than nothing and then they charge my insurance 1k for a bag of saline.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, Kyle, but that hasn't been my experience. Any time I've asked for a discount as a self-pay, I'm told they give 10%-15% off discount for self-pay...if paid in full right then. I know of two cases, (one my mother, heart attack/stents), where the bill was over $100K, and they settled with the insurance companies for ~10%. My mother's bill was like $112K, and they settled for ~$10K.

Hypothetical situation: I am called to two neighboring homes, with identical trees on the houses from storms. (I did say hypothetical...) One homeowner has insurance, the other does not. If I'm going to discount either, it will be the guy who's paying out of pocket, and NOT the job being paid for by an insurance company. But in the medical field, insurance companies settle for 10%-20% regularly.
 
The whole thing is a giant scam, don't get me wrong. Mine has paid out far over 6 figures, so I'm not sure why a medical facility would be settling with an insurance company, they have them dead to rights legally. A co pay maybe, but that's about the only thing i could imagine other than the insurance company going bankrupt. Republicans were trying to pass where you couldn't get rid of medical debt in bankruptcy as well, like they did for student loans.
 
The problem with Daniel or for that matter, the now banned, Frankie, is that they mostly hang out with people who share their obcession.
So all the "information" they get, is through that brotherhood, where they all sit in a gigantic mental World wide circle jerk off and stroke each other's egos.
Then, occasionally, they feel the need to polish that ego, and venture out in the World to pass on their "wisdom" to the rest of us sheep.
Unfortunately all that time spent with people of their own ilk, has made them feel so superior to the rest of humanity, that they can't see beyond their own noses or carry on a decent discussion.

Here is a Daniel example of that: "I can't help but think what a bunch of dumb FKS all you pro-vaxxers are"

Danny boy, Frankie is out of here, Butch would have kicked your ass out for that one, like he did 2 times before.
Now that Carl has started cleaning 'House, maybe you should dial it down a bit.
 
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I love how you keep notes on me Stig... I generally present solid information in a fairly dispassionate way. I was feeling a bit frustrated at the time I wrote the above. Your analogy seems like a projection. It's easy to throw mud then just ignore any facts that don't support your worldview.

Was Frankie permanently banned?
I think you all would bore yourselves to death without some differences of opinion around here. I didn't care for his communication style and ignored most of his links to ranting right-wingers, but I did learn a good bit from many of his other links, as I have from others here. Here's another one for you to ignore:

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Israeli People Committee's Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body - GreatGameInternational

The Israeli People Committee (IPC), a civilian body made of leading Israeli health experts, has published its April report into the Pfizer vaccine’s side effects. If the findings by IPC are genuine, then Pfizer vaccine is linked to more deaths in Israel than AstraZeneca’s in the whole of Europe...
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How you should easily be able to tell that you are on a bullshit website, from the Israeli thing. To be crystal clear, nothing on this website at all could ever be construed as facts. Honestly the internet has so much awesome porn on it I'm confused why you would ever spend time looking under rocks for this crap.

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Kyle,
Why do you not respond to reliably sourced materials in the links I post?

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The measurement and full statistical analysis including Bayesian methods of the aluminium content of infant vaccines - PubMed

The data have raised specific questions about the significance of the aluminium content of vaccines and identified areas of extremely limited information. Since aluminium is a known toxin in humans and specifically a neurotoxin, its content in vaccines should be accurate and independently...
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Regulations.gov

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Because that was another thread i completely ignored, we have 5 or so different threads all talking about vaccine stuff, i don't care at all about vaccine misinformation that most of those threads contain, and again i simply don't believe you with your sources that you keep posting. I think your heart is maybe in the right place, but I'm sorry, i don't agree or believe you. As far as the article, yeah, holy shit, someone mass producing something doesn't have complete control of the product. If you worked in manufacturing at any point of your life you wouldn't be surprised at all by this, but would rather wonder how any vehicle goes down the road without totally exploding. Ironically the fact that they did that study shows the system is working, at least partially.

I don't trust every dr out there, i really don't trust any of them. I know pharma companies have no problem killing people for profit, which is why we need to end this for profit system in this country. If you care about this issue and voted for anyone other than the people saying that this system needs to be dismantled you would be a hypocrite. Having said that, Europe and other developed countries that have socialized medicine also use the same vaccines and medical practices. You think that this is some massive conspiracy everywhere you turn and you are somehow blessed with some knowledge that no one else has, i don't. I know it's far from perfect, but i trust them more than i trust the one Kennedy they didn't kill, great game India (seriously wtf), "conservativewoman.uk", etc.
 
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Then saying a lone doctor who obviously no one knows is a super trusted source, although he's the "most published" one despite being a cardiologist rather than a pulmonologist (covid is a disease of the lung after all) means to me that he's a complete clown. The fact that he's not affiliated with any major teaching hospital and yet is still vomiting bullshit everywhere confirms it. The baby with the bathwater line assumes that the baby is still living, not looking good in this case.
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You just called Dr Peter McCullough ..... "a complete clown"...
You got that wrong. That's what I'm talking about.. you're ignoring the truth right before your eyes. and twisting facts to suit your viewpoint.
Can't you just look at that guy and know he's a brilliant man and dedicated healer?

Then you said "The fact that he's not affiliated with any major teaching hospital and yet is still vomiting bullshit everywhere confirms it."
Got that wrong too..
Baylor College of Medicine is ranked No. 22 (tie) in Best Medical Schools: Research and No. 17 (tie) in Best Medical Schools: Primary Care. Schools are ranked according to their performance across a set of widely accepted indicators of excellence.


DR. PETER MCCULLOUGH BLAMES HIGH COVID DEATH TOLL ON MASSIVE CENSORSHIP OF EFFECTIVE TREATMENT PROTOCOL AND SAYS THAT 85% OF PATIENTS GIVEN MULTI-DRUG TREATMENT IMMEDIATELY AFTER TESTING POSITIVE RECOVER WITH “COMPLETE AND DURABLE” IMMUNITY: An Internist, cardiologist and professor of medicine, Dr McCollough treats covid patients and was involved in two major studies indicating that treatment is the key to getting covid under control. The pandemic could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other physicians use were not suppressed. Link to McCullough et al study on early multi-drug treatment of Covid in "Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine." See page 522 of study for diagram showing treatment/drugs for ages and phases of illness:


Here's his testimony before the Senate committee on health and human services:
 
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If he has been run over by a bus, would that have been the vaccine's fault, too?

People die from heart attacks every day.

But of course it is the vaccine, just like tyhe Danish chief of medicine who collapsed on TV and you went all out about how it was because of the vaccine, until I pointed out that she had not been vaccinated.

You'll simply pick up any morsel on the net that suits your agenda, and never try to verify it.
 
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You all have been lied to and you suck it right up...


FLCCC Alliance Statement on the Irregular Actions of Public Health Agencies and the Widespread Disinformation Campaign Against Ivermectin

Awareness of ivermectin’s efficacy and its adoption by physicians worldwide to successfully treat COVID-19 have grown exponentially over the past several months. Oddly, however, even as the clinical trials data and successful ivermectin treatment experiences continue to mount, so too have the...
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