Integrated Soft Shackle

[MasterBlaster]

Tommy D banned me because he caught wind (Ekkka) of the fact that I wasn't real excited about him paying me a visit.

Good reason for a permaban, eh!

 

[Brocky]

Here is another variation on the soft shackle hitch cord. Basically the same core and cover, but put together differently. The core of the previous one was buried inside itself, while in this one the cores are side by side. This one needed an 8mm cover and the other a 6mm. This one looks like it is made of tubular webbing.

 

[BlackSmith]

For some people, for some unknown reason, pics will upload sideways or upside down.

It's not your fault.

Some progs/apps/sites don't play well with exif tags on pix...

 

[Brocky]

The last picture was taken sideways so that it would appear in the right orientation.

 

[DMc]

Brocky, the pictures are great but would it be possible to make a short video of the hitch in action? No problem if you can't. I find this interesting but I'm having trouble visualizing it in action.

 

[ruel]

I second the video request

 

[pantheraba]

Lordy...you just made me channel Jomo.....

 

[Brocky]

The last picture just shows a regular VT, girth hitched, and the connecting loop and knot in the back. It ended up too short to make the other hitch, and was just showing the different type of construction of the cord.

The other hitch, the Overhand Oval VT, is a self contained hitch that works in SRT mode. First there is four wraps and cross in the front for the braid. You can put the carabiner under the braid or wait until later, or if using a ring it must be npow. Second bring the eyes to the back and rotate the wraps 180 degrees to tie the overhand. Make sure the eyes are the same length. Third, form a loop and put the eyes through it. At this point the eyes have to be long and flexible enough to pass through the loop. Keeping the knot neat, with the eyes not crossing will make it easier to untie. The eyes should rotate 180 degrees after passing through the loop while dressing and tightening. Fourth, turn the hitch around again and put the oval carabiner in the front braid, and bring the eyes to the front through the carabiner.

 

[DMc]

OK, thanks for that. It made what you are saying clear, good job. So, you have been successfully climbing SRT with this setup?

 

[Brocky]

Yes, just no long,fast descents. There seems to be a sweet spot for the location of the overhand, up higher causes more friction, but it always grabs. Down lower it tends easier but not as reliable at grabbing after advancing. Stiffer cords with a tightly braided cover works best.

 

[gf beranek]

Nice illustration. thanks for sharing that.

 

[ruel]

http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=17201

Hmm that looks familiar. Even the same color as mine. Apparently it was a good idea.

 

[Brocky]

Wow, they sure over complicated that. A toggle, or dogbone, as they seemed to be called now, on a prusik, that connects to a loop spliced on the end of the winch line, would be quicker and simpler.

Might be a good time to contact your lawyer!

 

[SeanKroll]

Notch should just make a plastic hook. Simple.

 

[ruel]

They have that too.. called the chook or something

 

[NickfromWI]

Chook is made by Yale


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[SeanKroll]

Yale Ultrex Spectra Winch Line with Chook

http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=16078

 

[ruel]

Yeah, that wasn't available two years ago. I wonder why treestuff made the soft shackle after the chook came out

 

[SeanKroll]

Good $/ hour service in splicing...my guess.

 

[Burnham]

Some folks might just look a little askance at the Chook..."a plastic hook?". Heck...I might too. Offer an alternative for them.

 

[treebilly]

I'm happy with the Crosby hook in my amsteel winch line. Not changing that till I have to

 

[SeanKroll]

How about a carved, wooden hook?

 

[Burnham]

If a normal steel snaphook is too risky for your crew, just tie a fookin' knot, peeps.

 

[ruel]

If a metal snap is to much for your crew, tying a knot probably is too

 

[Brocky]

I found a good use for an intergrated soft shackle on the end of a lanyard. The saw lanyard on the left is an old one retrofitted with a shackle made from accessory cord, rather than the standard of dyneema.