sawinredneck
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I've heard Yoga is painfull!
Epidural for back pain?
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MasterBlaster
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vharrison
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That is true. The cardio just helps you burn the calories. I have gone to eating like 5 times a day, but small amounts. I never walk away from eating feeling stuffed and never go into a meal starving. It is working for me, lost 25 pounds. My cardio consists of walking 3 miles very briskly ( with a little running mixed in ) 5 days a week. (not fun but it is working)
Tree Reb
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Fallguy is onto something, that's similar to one of the exercises the doctor I mentioned gave me, and a lot cheaper than Vax D. Worth a try.
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Newfie
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Or the 8 or 9 beers before the nap, even.
I partook of none alcoholic yesterday. I wanted to have more room for the food.
It was about 9 pm before I felt hungry again.
High Scale
Trust fund lobbyist.
Darin I know this is going sound crazy but one of the guys at work 18 years ago had a herniated disc. The doctor scheduled to do surgery was going on vacation for 2 weeks so he would do it when he got back. Well this guy was in a lot of pain and asked the doc what he could do? The doctor told him to lay on his stomach over a 55 gallon barrel. This guy could not hardly walk so he was stuck at home. He did what the Doctor said. When he got out of bed he crawled to the living room and up on the barrel and turned the TV. He stayed like that all day the only time he wasn't over the barrel was to use toilet. The disc slipped back into place and he walked into the doctors office with no pain. They did another X-ray everything was fine. The doctor asked him what he had done. He said what you told me to do for about 12 hours a day. The doctor said no one else had ever stuck with it that long. It worked for him. It may be worth a try for 3 or 4 hours in the evening to reverse the pressure on the disc. Good luck!!!
That sounds like that Simpson's episode.
Although when I prolapsed my disc, S1, the only way I could cope with the pain was to lay over a padded foot stall, I only got up for relief, personal or herbal.
OTGBOSTON
punk in drublic
I remember that one.... with the dented trash can
I have been going to the chiropractor for three weeks for a sciatic nerve problem, it has helped me feel 99% better. He does deep tissue massage and then cracks me up a bit. At home I strech run and work out (the pain was so bad before I just sat arounfd feeling bad)
A swiss ball can do the same thing as the 55 gal drum. streching out everyday is also helpful, 30 mins while watching tv.
good luck Andy, back pain sux for sure.
I have been going to the chiropractor for three weeks for a sciatic nerve problem, it has helped me feel 99% better. He does deep tissue massage and then cracks me up a bit. At home I strech run and work out (the pain was so bad before I just sat arounfd feeling bad)
A swiss ball can do the same thing as the 55 gal drum. streching out everyday is also helpful, 30 mins while watching tv.
good luck Andy, back pain sux for sure.
SkwerI
Treehouser
Back to the topic of back pain-
No, it's not as serious as many here, but I pulled something in my back pushing a chunk of pine log off a spar this morning. I felt it immediately but kept going. Just a constant ache that doesn't vary regardless of my position or activity. It's quite different from my usual back pain.
Anyway, I have some Flexiril here but cannot take a whole one because it knocks me out for 18-20 hours. So I took a half of one and hopefully it will ease the pain and still allow me to get up and go to work in the morning.
No, it's not as serious as many here, but I pulled something in my back pushing a chunk of pine log off a spar this morning. I felt it immediately but kept going. Just a constant ache that doesn't vary regardless of my position or activity. It's quite different from my usual back pain.
Anyway, I have some Flexiril here but cannot take a whole one because it knocks me out for 18-20 hours. So I took a half of one and hopefully it will ease the pain and still allow me to get up and go to work in the morning.
MasterBlaster
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If you had a regular chiropractor with your halfway current x-rays, you could just pop in the office tomorrow for a simple adjustment for less than a Franklin.
Easily.
Easily.
SkwerI
Treehouser
My last chiropractor died of a heart attack about 4 years ago. And I've been mostly pain free since. Believe me, if it doesn't get any better in a day or two I'll be seeing somebody about it.
Hurts to take a deep breath.
Hurts to take a deep breath.
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ChuckR
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I assume you've had an MRI?? I had surgery on herniated L4/5 about 15 years ago and never looked back. I was losing a reflex in my foot and was in constant discomfort for a couple years. The relief was almost instant. Was in for 2 days. I keep my weight off, do a lot of rowing, a few weights and pilates exercises. My back gets a little tired but I'm never in pain. You'll know when/if you're ready for surgery. But if you do, there's every reason to believe it will succeed.
sawinredneck
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WOW!!! That is totally opposite of what I have heard!!!
There are days, feeling great mind you, I sit down on the toilet and go to stand up, my right leg just isn't THERE!! I do a face plant into the door! I would LOVE to explain the feeling, but I really can't! It's just flat gone!! From a stand to a lump of mush on the floor!
But everyone I talk to tries to talk me out of fusion or surgery of any type!!
Brian, I am WAY more sympathetic than I think you can understand!!!
High Scale
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I go for a new MRI in May, constant pain, it's really getting on my tits.
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ChuckR
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I didn't require any fusion. They snipped away the extruded material which was impinging on my spinal cord. It wasn't going to get better on its own. Done through a 1 1/2" incision. I'll be forever thankful of my outcome. A buddy of mine had fusion then bought himself a Harley. I'll state the obvious and say that you need to have confidence in the surgeon.
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chucky
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I would have to agree with Skwerl that many, if not most Chiropractors are quacks, and that adjustment and spinal manipulation by Chiropractors is not the answer for back pain. I can sure sympathize with those posting with back pain, as over the years I’ve “thrown out” my back innumerable times with slow and painful recovery times. Finally, a few weeks ago after a particularly painful incident pruning fruit trees in a small orchard, I’m pretty sure I’ve finally found the solution to my back woes. The funny thing is my back would never go out from heavy lifting, but rather from rather simple, mildly awkward movements, or even just sleeping in bed, certainly activities one would never expect to throw one’s back out with. The solution for me came from performing a few simple stretching exercises a few times a day as prescribed in the small, inexpensive book, “Treat Your Own Back,” by Robin McKenzie.
After the last, almost crippling, incident, after religiously performing the stretching exercises, and being mindful of my posture while sitting, in just three days I was right back to 100% pain-free and feeling great. And I’ve felt great, with not a single incident since. What I’ve come to realize is it isn’t the physical labor itself that was causing my back episodes—as long as I was lifting properly with my legs and with a straight back—but instead it was how I was treating my back while NOT engaged in physical activities, that is, my tendency to slouch while sitting in a chair, especially at a computer. So called DJS—Desk Jockey Syndrome, which of course most rope-swinging tr’ousers wouldn’t ever expect to fall victim to, but who can really succumb to in just a short time sitting incorrectly and doing other back-unfriendly activities.
Another thing I like about this little book is when you DO throw out your back, McKenzie prescribes specifically what to do immediately after the episode, and supposedly, though I can’t testify myself as to how effective it is, the remedial exercises are quite remarkable in bringing the disks in the spine back into proper alignment in just minutes, thereby reducing strain on the supporting ligaments and preventing what could be a few days of pain, stiffness and misery. I am almost looking forward to an episode, just to see if it works!
Anyway, I haven’t posted in quite a long spell in the House, but I can’t stand seeing any of my ol’ buddies in pain, so I felt I had to give my two cents on what I truly think will help those with back troubles.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0958269238/bookstorenow57-20
After the last, almost crippling, incident, after religiously performing the stretching exercises, and being mindful of my posture while sitting, in just three days I was right back to 100% pain-free and feeling great. And I’ve felt great, with not a single incident since. What I’ve come to realize is it isn’t the physical labor itself that was causing my back episodes—as long as I was lifting properly with my legs and with a straight back—but instead it was how I was treating my back while NOT engaged in physical activities, that is, my tendency to slouch while sitting in a chair, especially at a computer. So called DJS—Desk Jockey Syndrome, which of course most rope-swinging tr’ousers wouldn’t ever expect to fall victim to, but who can really succumb to in just a short time sitting incorrectly and doing other back-unfriendly activities.
Another thing I like about this little book is when you DO throw out your back, McKenzie prescribes specifically what to do immediately after the episode, and supposedly, though I can’t testify myself as to how effective it is, the remedial exercises are quite remarkable in bringing the disks in the spine back into proper alignment in just minutes, thereby reducing strain on the supporting ligaments and preventing what could be a few days of pain, stiffness and misery. I am almost looking forward to an episode, just to see if it works!
Anyway, I haven’t posted in quite a long spell in the House, but I can’t stand seeing any of my ol’ buddies in pain, so I felt I had to give my two cents on what I truly think will help those with back troubles.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0958269238/bookstorenow57-20
MasterBlaster
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That doesn't make it the correct choice, merely your choice.
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chucky
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Well, I spose so, but if I didn't look at things with a healthy dose of skepticism and even cynicism (as Skwerl does), I would have by now spent my entire income on vitamins, Lipitor, and viagra.
sawinredneck
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Thanks for the insight Chucky! And good to read you again as well!
Magnus
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I have tried most things and I must say that excepting the fact and dealing with it mentally has had what little positive effect I experienced.
I must say I have more effect from a hour really relaxed state (kind of meditation/yoga) than I ever had of pills or training at the hospital (did that over a year before I got booted).
Acupuncture is good, simulate nerves and done right it can reduce pain a bit an hour or too.
Bone breakers i have been to same thing there, short time effect...
Not really sure if the chiro did good or not, I can't see any positive come out of it from the thousands I spent on that.
I too have trouble to stop eating. It is so damned good!
Walking does wonders for that, but will keep me in bed a day or so after...
I did all kinds of stuff, Stone age diet, vegetarian diet, supplements, natural medicine, homeopath (?) and all other stuff I could think of.
Spent thousands of $$ to very little use except a hole bunch of promises..
I got 8 discs and six bones busted and it is not getting much better after 10 years.
I stopped working on farms, do part time tinkering with saws as much as I can.
That helped I can honestly say! I would not be here today writing this otherwise.
I believe best medicine is in the head. I think I can deal with pain pretty well, but adjusting to this physically is much harder for me. Don't do this, don't do that...
Sleeping is a problem, still working on that...
I must say I have more effect from a hour really relaxed state (kind of meditation/yoga) than I ever had of pills or training at the hospital (did that over a year before I got booted).
Acupuncture is good, simulate nerves and done right it can reduce pain a bit an hour or too.
Bone breakers i have been to same thing there, short time effect...
Not really sure if the chiro did good or not, I can't see any positive come out of it from the thousands I spent on that.
I too have trouble to stop eating. It is so damned good!
Walking does wonders for that, but will keep me in bed a day or so after...
I did all kinds of stuff, Stone age diet, vegetarian diet, supplements, natural medicine, homeopath (?) and all other stuff I could think of.
Spent thousands of $$ to very little use except a hole bunch of promises..
I got 8 discs and six bones busted and it is not getting much better after 10 years.
I stopped working on farms, do part time tinkering with saws as much as I can.
That helped I can honestly say! I would not be here today writing this otherwise.
I believe best medicine is in the head. I think I can deal with pain pretty well, but adjusting to this physically is much harder for me. Don't do this, don't do that...
Sleeping is a problem, still working on that...
Che
Treehouser
The thing with chiropractors is that they make their living 'adjusting'...over and over again.
After first taking an xray to rule out serious problems (like KC, and Magnus have), I was going there a couple times a week at first (maybe it was once a week, I forget.) The session started by lying down on a rollermatic bed thing in a dark room for $20. They had timers on the contraption itself, timers on the lights....a nurse/assistant would walk you in, and you'd spend the next twenty minutes in the near dark with this big roller within the cushion rolling slowly up and down like a big car wash roller. It was heaven, to be honest.
The hands on time with the chiropractor took less than ten minutes. He barely looked a the chart....I felt like he must be REALLY good, as he knew exactly what to do to make me feel better.
But it always went back. Within a month or so, I was twinging again and giving him a call....and a check. I was hooked. Dependent.
Dependent in able to keep working.
I've said it enough before, but the PTs I went to got to the root of the problem. The pain was real. The problem was real. Even the chiro's fix was real. BUT....why insert someone else in your life for the duration if you can fix it yourself. They taught me how.
I still have back pain. I still have to be careful about what I do. But I know that with a little self discipline, and work....I can get it better. I will never go back to a chiropractor....and I feel like I was going to one of the good ones. I think it's really important to first take the time and energy to get to the root of the problem in the first place and find out if you are one of the lucky ones who just has bad habits like myself.
Chucky, nice to read you! I'm going to look into your book.
After first taking an xray to rule out serious problems (like KC, and Magnus have), I was going there a couple times a week at first (maybe it was once a week, I forget.) The session started by lying down on a rollermatic bed thing in a dark room for $20. They had timers on the contraption itself, timers on the lights....a nurse/assistant would walk you in, and you'd spend the next twenty minutes in the near dark with this big roller within the cushion rolling slowly up and down like a big car wash roller. It was heaven, to be honest.
The hands on time with the chiropractor took less than ten minutes. He barely looked a the chart....I felt like he must be REALLY good, as he knew exactly what to do to make me feel better.
But it always went back. Within a month or so, I was twinging again and giving him a call....and a check. I was hooked. Dependent.
Dependent in able to keep working.
I've said it enough before, but the PTs I went to got to the root of the problem. The pain was real. The problem was real. Even the chiro's fix was real. BUT....why insert someone else in your life for the duration if you can fix it yourself. They taught me how.
I still have back pain. I still have to be careful about what I do. But I know that with a little self discipline, and work....I can get it better. I will never go back to a chiropractor....and I feel like I was going to one of the good ones. I think it's really important to first take the time and energy to get to the root of the problem in the first place and find out if you are one of the lucky ones who just has bad habits like myself.
Chucky, nice to read you! I'm going to look into your book.
Magnus
TreeHouser
They knew they would not help me but sucked out as much cash as they could anyway...
