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Nick from Ohio
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I have.
Base Tie Rescue System/Kit
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Appalachian
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Thanks for the welcome everyone.
I'm by no means an expert but we practice a variety of rescues with our fire dept.'s rescue training. We don't use our personnel in
training exercises however. The last tree rescue I heard about was an unconscious climber thankfully
nestled in the crotch of a tree. Rescuers spiked up attached a pulley and rope with a rack base tied and lowered him to the ground.
I'm by no means an expert but we practice a variety of rescues with our fire dept.'s rescue training. We don't use our personnel in
training exercises however. The last tree rescue I heard about was an unconscious climber thankfully
nestled in the crotch of a tree. Rescuers spiked up attached a pulley and rope with a rack base tied and lowered him to the ground.
ClimbMIT
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How long did the rescue take?
Appalachian
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Around 45 minutes from the page
Hence the "thankfully nestled in the crotch of a tree".
The area was remote.
Hence the "thankfully nestled in the crotch of a tree".
The area was remote.
Merle Nelson
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Wow!! Thats a long time when you stop and think about it.
emr
Cheesehead Treehouser
Last summer the Wisconsin Arborist Association had an AR training seminar and the Madison High Angle Rescue team came to show us how they would rescue a climber. It took them well over an hour to get the dummy our of the tree. The chief of the team said that was pretty much what it would take in the real world. The rescue world works by an entirely different set of rules than we do. When they rig anything up, safety is their number one concern.... Not speed. When they come to a climber in a tree, that's a totally new situation for them and they may not be sure how to proceed. They will always err on the side of caution, which means increased time.
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Rescue response time should be a call to climbers to configure several rescue techniques and the tools to accomplish them.
Based on Nick's reviews I'm hopeful the Hitch Hiker is going to be a great tool for not only climbing work but also rescue scenarios too.
Moral of the Story: Climbing crews are pretty much on their own for rescue.
Based on Nick's reviews I'm hopeful the Hitch Hiker is going to be a great tool for not only climbing work but also rescue scenarios too.
Moral of the Story: Climbing crews are pretty much on their own for rescue.
MasterBlaster
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That's a fact! 
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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Seeing Kevin Bingham incorporate this principle into his Masters Climb at TreeJam put the biggest smile on my face. We need to get that man a proper kit!
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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The base tie kit is in-stock and available for sale!
https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=3538#detail
https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=3538#detail
Burnham
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Good on you, and Luke...good piece of gear. I still think an RQ3 rescue 8 would be a much preferable choice of kit for this system, but that's just a minor quibble. This is fine as is.
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Nick from Ohio
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Its a screen shot from the video. I didnt have a picture on hand... DMC has a pic I think.
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Nick from Ohio
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Here Fiona, (and Stig).
This is DMC's pic. essentially this is the system set up for a lower. In practical use you leave the gear in the bag, setting just the butterfly knots and being ready to deploy the kit if needed.
Big THANKS to Dave for hi help with this, and willingness to let me take his idea and run with it. Whether Luke sells a million kits or not a single one, I still love the idea and 'use' it every day on every climb. It may not be perfect in every situation but its so simple to set up (two knots) and take down - the kit is so small and just 'there' in my bag - and IF I ever need it I sure will be glad I didnt skip tying two butterfly knots.
This is DMC's pic. essentially this is the system set up for a lower. In practical use you leave the gear in the bag, setting just the butterfly knots and being ready to deploy the kit if needed.
Big THANKS to Dave for hi help with this, and willingness to let me take his idea and run with it. Whether Luke sells a million kits or not a single one, I still love the idea and 'use' it every day on every climb. It may not be perfect in every situation but its so simple to set up (two knots) and take down - the kit is so small and just 'there' in my bag - and IF I ever need it I sure will be glad I didnt skip tying two butterfly knots.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
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Yes.
But in the production kit its a Climbing Technology figure 8 (not the Petzl Pirahna in Daves picture) and its a green/black rope that is the rescue line (not the red one in dave pic). Here is a description of the function:
"After setting a climbing line and tying it off at the base of the tree you simply install 2 butterfly knots, 24" apart, above the base tie. If a rescue becomes necessary a rescuer attaches the included figure 8 descender to the lower knot and the end of the rescue line to the upper knot. After taking up the slack and locking off the figure 8, with a hand on the brake line the rescuer cuts the connecting link of the climbing line between the knots with the included hand pruners. This transfers the weight of the climber to the rescue line and allows safe fast lowering.
The kit is comprised of:
100' of Teufelberger 10mm Sirius Reep Schnur with a sewn eye
(1) Climbing Technology Rescue 8
(1) Large Weaver Throwline Bag
(2) Climbing Technology Oval Carabiner
(1) Phoenix "Red & White" Hand Pruner
(1) Weaver Pruner Holster"
I wouldnt set it up like that pre-climb though, just leave it in the bag till you need it. Having less weight on the downhill side of your rope makes things easier while you are climbing.
But in the production kit its a Climbing Technology figure 8 (not the Petzl Pirahna in Daves picture) and its a green/black rope that is the rescue line (not the red one in dave pic). Here is a description of the function:
"After setting a climbing line and tying it off at the base of the tree you simply install 2 butterfly knots, 24" apart, above the base tie. If a rescue becomes necessary a rescuer attaches the included figure 8 descender to the lower knot and the end of the rescue line to the upper knot. After taking up the slack and locking off the figure 8, with a hand on the brake line the rescuer cuts the connecting link of the climbing line between the knots with the included hand pruners. This transfers the weight of the climber to the rescue line and allows safe fast lowering.
The kit is comprised of:
100' of Teufelberger 10mm Sirius Reep Schnur with a sewn eye
(1) Climbing Technology Rescue 8
(1) Large Weaver Throwline Bag
(2) Climbing Technology Oval Carabiner
(1) Phoenix "Red & White" Hand Pruner
(1) Weaver Pruner Holster"
I wouldnt set it up like that pre-climb though, just leave it in the bag till you need it. Having less weight on the downhill side of your rope makes things easier while you are climbing.
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