Bad Boy chainsaw

[Treeaddict]

The commercial mower producers are now getting into 2 cycle, it appears. Interesting.

 

[Kaveman]

My MS500i, aka "Miss New Booty" is a bad bitch. This saw is a happy homeowner joke.

 

[lxskllr]

Bold or foolish? Gas tools are slowly dying, and dominated by the big two, with an also ran by echo. Not sure how you make money. It's priced about the same as echo, and made in Japan by an old company, so it's probably quality, but what about parts? Too expensive for homeowners, and not well known by pros. Who are they selling to?

 

[Kaveman]

Bold or foolish? Gas tools are slowly dying, and dominated by the big two, with an also ran by echo. Not sure how you make money. It's priced about the same as echo, and made in Japan by an old company, so it's probably quality, but what about parts? Too expensive for homeowners, and not well known by pros. Who are they selling to?

Happy homeowners. The same folks that buy no drip paint rollers that are essentially a giant syringe.

 

[lxskllr]

$340. That's outside homeowner's price range for a 30cc saw. You can get an ms170 for $200

 

[Kaveman]

$340. That's outside homeowner's price range for a 30cc saw. You can get an ms170 for $200

See my earlier post re: the giant paint enema stick. People with more dollars than sense. What's the old saying, "There's one born every minute".

There's no accounting for stupid people, Brother John. That's where their accounting department saw dollars.

Someone who likes our mowers, or our white labeled compact tractors likely has use for a chainsaw. They bought our other, very expensive product, they bought our product because they don't hire such work out, that means they're likely to want to save money in other ways. Arborists and landscapers are expensive, let's brand a Japanese chainsaw with our stickers. We already got them to buy an Indian tractor with fancy stickers.

Echo makes very nice stuff. I'll fight about it. Screw Sthil's top handle saws...

 

[flushcut]

If they are good they will find their market space.

 

[Treeaddict]

I think they are trying to break into the landscape market. The mower dealership can have the BadBoy chainsaw, weed eater, and hedge trimmers. 🤷‍♂️

 

[flushcut]

On the same note Echo was considered landscaper use only back in the day.

 

[Kaveman]

On the same note Echo was considered landscaper use only back in the day.

How long ago was that? My first chainsaw was an Echo CS-440, back when Echo saws were grey, 20 years ago. It was a damn good saw, starting easier and running just as strong as any saw in its size class.

 

[flushcut]

Early 90’s for me

 

[lxskllr]

I don't think 'for landscapers' is pejorative. It's just what the market is. Landscapers can use good saws too. Ths 2511 is what really kicked them into the arborist market.

 

[Nutball]

As far as I know, all echo saws were pro grade, but now they are trying to emphasize pro grade with a different look, and calling them X series.

 

[flushcut]

I don’t have any complaints about Echo, they have always been good dependable gear. Saws, blowers, hedgers, strimmers all solid.

 

[Ed L]

Early 90’s for me

Lol....My first saw was a Deere labeled Echo, mid 80's.
Danmed good saw, always started easy, ran great.
Sadly it was a low rpm saw, took a while to cut stuff....went down the road around 97 for a new 026.

Ed