Arborol Bar Oil: Just add water????
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squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
Knot eye.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
A faller here, on average, uses 2 quarts of bar oil a day. A landing man can use near a gallon a day. At $20 bugs a gallon .... Wow
Pretty expensive. For the home owner or small operator it wouldn't add up quite so fast and going green would make them feel good too.
Pretty expensive. For the home owner or small operator it wouldn't add up quite so fast and going green would make them feel good too.
NickfromWI
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I do it slightly for the warm fuzzies it gives me, but also for the sales aspect. My clients EXPECT it and don't mind paying a little extra for it.
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nick
MasterBlaster
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I'll pass.
NickfromWI
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I'm intrigued by the fact that it says you mix with water and it supposedly is BETTER at lubing and keeping temps down...
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Imma holdout for the beer version.
top_notch
Treehouser
Good answer!
Thor's Hammer
Wolfish. Sometimes Bites.
Any machinist will tell you that a water / oil emulsion is optimum for cutting lubrication and temperature control. These emulsion bar oils work great Nick, but they make your saws a bit gunky if you dont clean them regularly.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
My guess is the stuff is some form of water soluble oil .It would probabley work but I'll do likewise and pass on it .
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Just canola or corn. Put a green label on it and...... We used veg oil when bucking that wind fall out of Big River. It worked alright on a 84 inch bar.
Magnus
TreeHouser
I sold some of this and tried it myself.
It is not a bad thing for a forest worker, but there is better stuff for the firewood pile.
A customer here used it since '08 now and is happy with it.
As you add the water you normally buy in the oil you have less to carry home.
One that cut lots in a Logosol milling jig use this 1:5 and is very happy with it.
He has about 200hrs/season and is happy that he doesn't need to carry so much home.
I would say the wear on his bars and chains are less now than before he started using it.
His cost is about half of what it would be using regular bar oil.
In winter you need to add anti freeze to it.
It is not a bad thing for a forest worker, but there is better stuff for the firewood pile.
A customer here used it since '08 now and is happy with it.
As you add the water you normally buy in the oil you have less to carry home.
One that cut lots in a Logosol milling jig use this 1:5 and is very happy with it.
He has about 200hrs/season and is happy that he doesn't need to carry so much home.
I would say the wear on his bars and chains are less now than before he started using it.
His cost is about half of what it would be using regular bar oil.
In winter you need to add anti freeze to it.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Wouldn't be so green then.
Magnus
TreeHouser
gf beranek
Old Schooler
Well the sugar would act as antifreeze too. So it would be green and sweet. Could caramelize on a hot bar and chain and make taffy.
Magnus
TreeHouser
Point of this is that it should not get hot.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
It's probabley just water with a gelling agent or it is the gelling agent you add to the water .In essence water with a gelling agent added in is KY jelley ,in kind of a medical form .It's sold as "poly water" to lubricate wires on a long pull or pump down a well to hyrafrac it .Gelled water is just a friction reducer .
If that is in fact what it is the stuff evaporates just like water and leaves no trace .Under certain conditions like cutting near a river or something it might have some merit .Otherwise I personally think not ,an opinion .
If that is in fact what it is the stuff evaporates just like water and leaves no trace .Under certain conditions like cutting near a river or something it might have some merit .Otherwise I personally think not ,an opinion .
sotc
Dormant hero!!
My guess is a food grade soluble oil, turns whiteish when mixed. We used it in Alaska in our fish processing machines, worked just fine as a lubricant
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
I did a little research and it appears this stuff is concentrated veggie oil with emolsofiers added .The directions say to shake the stuff up before you use it which says to me the components are in suspension not totally homogenized for want of a better word .
That being the case it would make sense that given enough time the stuff could go back into suspension ,perhaps inside the saws oil tank .They also stated the stuff was good up to 3 months in a sealed container .Again being veggie oil it could go rancid like animal fat coolants and smell like a bucket of fermented butt holes .
I'd say though were a person to use the stuff it would be good idea to drain it out if the saw were to sit a spell especially in a cold climate .It might not be a bad idea either to run a part tank of kerosine or diesel through just to keep the stuff cleaned out .Veggie oil will set up like lard after a period of time .
That being the case it would make sense that given enough time the stuff could go back into suspension ,perhaps inside the saws oil tank .They also stated the stuff was good up to 3 months in a sealed container .Again being veggie oil it could go rancid like animal fat coolants and smell like a bucket of fermented butt holes .
I'd say though were a person to use the stuff it would be good idea to drain it out if the saw were to sit a spell especially in a cold climate .It might not be a bad idea either to run a part tank of kerosine or diesel through just to keep the stuff cleaned out .Veggie oil will set up like lard after a period of time .
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Hmm, I got some bear grease in the freezer, if I used that would I be considered "going green"?
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
You might please one group and annoy another . Somebody would whine about ,that's a sure fired bet .
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
All depends on what green camp you are in... Call it recycling... one camp might cheer you... 
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
--and you might have to show them where the bear chit in the woods if they complain too much .---
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
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